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ABOUT THOSE “VANISHING” FORESTS. . .
https://www.powerlineblog.com ^ | SEPTEMBER 8 | STEVEN HAYWARD

Posted on 09/10/2018 6:34:12 AM PDT by Enterprise

Most people think—and charlatan environmentalists are happy to reinforce the impression—that deforestation is taking place on a massive scale, that the world is literally going to run out of trees. I have noted from time to time the data from the United Nations Global Forest Resource Assessment (UNGFRA) that has found that deforestation stopped at least 25 years ago, and that net reforestation has been taking place.

But the UN data is not as good as one would like. This week, however, Naturemagazine published a major new studywith much more precise measurements and analysis than the UNGFRA based on 35 years’ worth of satellite imagery, and it finds that since 1982 global forest cover has increasedby 7.2 percent, or 2.24 million kilometers.

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; reforestation; trees
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1 posted on 09/10/2018 6:34:12 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

I have been told that there is as much forest/treed land in Massachusetts as there was in 1620. This may be happening all over New England and especially in western New York state.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 6:37:21 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Bookshelf

I dunno about “as much as in 1620”, but compared to 1890 or so, it’s probably orders of magnitude greater. All you need to do to determine that, is drive through the state on back roads, and note all the low hand-stacked stone walls running through the trees. All those walls delineated meadows and farmed fields that are now long-overgrown with large trees.


3 posted on 09/10/2018 6:41:29 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Enterprise

CO2 is FOOD!


4 posted on 09/10/2018 6:43:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

#PLANTSBREATHETOO


5 posted on 09/10/2018 6:46:14 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Bookshelf

In NH it goes something like this. In 1870 NH was 80% CLEARED of forest for farming, even the white mountains. 100 years later it was just the opposite 80% forested. All the smart farmers moved to Iowa, Indiana, etc.

In the last thirty plus years the amount of trees in the US has increased. The problem out in the western US there is not enough timber being cut on state and federal lands. This lack of clearing dead and dying timer has contributed to the major forest fires we are seeing today in CA, WA, OR, MT, CO.


6 posted on 09/10/2018 6:46:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Paladin2
Last weekend we were off on an excursion in our Excursion, trying to get as close as possible to "Hand on the Rock" in northern New Hampshire.

After driving an hour through forest on blacktop, we entered the backwoods and drove for several hours in thick forest.

We saw 5 or so camps on leased land and less than 10 humans, mostly on ATVs in about 5 hours of driving.

Thanks to modern technology, I now know exactly where Squeeze Hole Brook and Slewgundy are.

We found a road that hadn't been used in years that brought us within a mile and a half of the Hand.

We probably could have gotten within a half a mile, but it was getting late, and if we had a breakdown or got stuck, didn't want to have to deal with it in the dark.

You can't stop the trees from growing in the northeast. Stop mowing your lawn for a few years and you will be overrun with trees.

Now that we know roughly where to go, next time we'll bring one of our Unimogs.

We had supper at the Trading Post restaurant, just across the border on Route 16 in Maine. I ate there many, many years ago, when 16 was a dirt road.

If one were to take 16 either to 17 and go south, or stay on 16, there are vistas where you can get a slight idea of the vast woods in that area.

7 posted on 09/10/2018 7:01:29 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: Enterprise

Pave the Rainforest!


8 posted on 09/10/2018 7:03:36 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Mogger
Earlier this summer, after going to Andover, Maine with my 97 year old friend to see some WWII equipment, we took the "shortcut" road to Errol, New Hampshire.

He is from NJ, and retired here many years ago, but had never gotten much off the beaten path.

He was amazed at the views where you could see three mountain ranges away, all forest.

9 posted on 09/10/2018 7:10:49 AM PDT by Mogger
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What kind of trees grow in NH and Maine? I am in Oregon, our main tree “crop” is Douglas Fir trees. My county, in southern Oregon is the number one grower of Doug fir trees in the world. All we have to do is manage our forest better, by not treating trees like animals or humans.


10 posted on 09/10/2018 7:35:43 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: woodbutcher1963
Speaking of the White Mountains....the Presidentials and Mt Washington were glorious at dawn this morning.


11 posted on 09/10/2018 7:40:36 AM PDT by Daffynition (Rudy: What are you up to today? :))
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To: thirst4truth

I’m in the hills on the east side of the Willamette Valley, midway between Eugene and Salem. Trees grow around here whether you want them to or not. Mostly Douglas Fir, with a few pines.

There is a huge Weyerhauser tree farm just 1/2 a mile east. All Douglas Fir.


12 posted on 09/10/2018 8:07:16 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Bookshelf

You are correct. Here in Connecticut you can go into almost any wooded area and find rock walls.
Why are there rock walls in the middle of the woods? Because the rocks were removed 100 or 200 years ago from the surrounding area to make a field for crops. No crops, forest grows back. We have more trees here now then in the 1800’s


13 posted on 09/10/2018 8:19:42 AM PDT by penguinhunter
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To: thirst4truth

Natural tree species in NH & ME:

Eastern White Pine (same species as Idaho White Pine)
Eastern Hemlock
Balsam Fir
Red Pine
Black Spruce
White Spruce
Red Spruce
Eastern White Cedar, Eastern Red Cedar

Red Oak, White Oak, Black Oak, Pin Oak
Sugar Maple, Red Maple,
Quaking Aspen
Black Cherry
White Ash
Paper Birch, Yellow Birch
Black Walnut
American Beech

There might be a couple I missed. However, these are the predominant commercial species that have grow here since the Pilgrims arrived.

The big lumber species are White Pine, Sugar Maple and Red Oak.


14 posted on 09/10/2018 8:59:44 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: jimtorr

Douglas Fir and Western Hemlock are the predominate coastal species. There is a little Sitka Spruce growing up on the Olympic. South and east of you there is Grand Fir and White Fir. Farther east there will be Western Larch, Engleman Spruce and Lodgepole Pine. The biggest species east of the Cascades is Ponderosa Pine. This ends up in all your millwork items like doors and windows.


15 posted on 09/10/2018 9:19:19 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Enterprise
"This overall net gain is the result of a net loss in the tropics being outweighed by a net gain in the extratropics."

"Global bare ground cover has decreased by 1.16 million km2 (−3.1%), most notably in agricultural regions in Asia." Chinese leaving the farms and heading into the cities? It has been the largest total migration in human history.

"Consistently across all climate domains, montane (mountainous) systems have gained tree cover and many arid and semi-arid ecosystems have lost vegetation cover."

16 posted on 09/10/2018 10:11:01 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Bookshelf

I bought some land in NW Connecticut that was previously a farm , the house and barn had been torn down in the 1920’s . The owners had pictures from when they had lived there. Except for a couple of Large oaks it was all pasture . When I bought it all of it was forested, and I mean complete and thick woods. So from no trees in the 20’s to thick forest in 60 years. Amazing.


17 posted on 09/10/2018 10:41:36 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: Enterprise

After reading all the comments,the lesson I’m learning from this is....cut more trees,have less forest fires. Seems simple enough.


18 posted on 09/10/2018 10:47:52 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Little Pig
All those walls delineated meadows and farmed fields that are now long-overgrown with large trees.

Fake News!

Those walls delineated New Hampshire's famed "Rock Farms". ;)

19 posted on 09/10/2018 11:49:39 AM PDT by Does so (If Trump Colluded with Russians, Why Did Hillary Win The Popular Vote?)
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To: oldtech

Deforestation was one of the primary causes of wildfires 8n NH in the late 1800.


20 posted on 09/10/2018 12:50:27 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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