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Country watching Cruz, Beto race (O'Roarke asks for flags to be taken down at VFW)
The Examiner ^ | Sep 4, 2018 | Nicole Shupe

Posted on 09/07/2018 5:22:03 PM PDT by Mr.Unique

Political pundits throughout the country are watching a Texas Senatorial race to help them gauge the tone of the mid-year 2018 and subsequent 2020 elections. The race between Republican incumbent Ted Cruz and Democrat challenger Beto O’Rourke is shaping up to be the pivotal election for 2018.

As part of his self-proclaimed campaign promise to personally drive to all 254 counties in Texas, O’Rourke hosted a town hall meeting Saturday, Aug. 25, in Navasota, renting the hall at the VFW Post #4006.

“This (O’Rourke’s town hall) had nothing to do with the Democrat Party,” said local event organizer and Grimes County resident Ricke Weinkauf. “A lot of people don’t understand that the party has to be careful to stay separate from campaigning, funds come from different places for different reasons. The party is to represent the people, not the candidates, and to help build platform from local level to the state level.”

Weinkauf said the official sign-in attendance number was 450, but many accounts have the number higher, possibly exceeding the hall’s 500-person capacity.

“There were more than the 450 because there were still people in line when he started speaking and some who did not sign in,” said Weinkauf. “We had 250 chairs and they were all full and the standing room was full, there were even people spilling out of the doors.”

According to VFW Post #4006 Commander Carl Dry, the Veterans of Foreign Wars is not a political organization and the rental agreement with the O’Rourke campaign was part of the standard rental contract for any event.

“I do not normally attend rental events, but I attended Saturday to make sure things ran smoothly,” said Dry, who noted there were only two requests he could not allow at the VFW Post. “They wanted to open the doors (to the Flight Deck Lounge) and I couldn’t allow that and they wanted to take the flags down, I didn’t only say no, I said hell no, you don’t take the flags off the wall. I can’t believe any American would ask us to do that and I don’t know why he wanted them down or what he was going to put up instead.”

With so many people in attendance, there were people from all ideological backgrounds and political affiliation throughout the hall.

“I think people are ready for a different conversation and had heard the word being passed around that he was interesting and we had people come from other areas because people had missed their chance to hear him at other meetings,” said Weinkauf.

“Obviously, there were a lot of people there, 350 or plus, I definitely think well over 90 percent of them were from out of town, as I did not recognize many of them,” said Grimes County resident Dianna Westmoreland.

Public perception

For the listeners of the Grimes County town hall the reactions were as varied as the people in attendance and seemed to align with each individual’s beliefs.

“Given today’s divisive political atmosphere, it was refreshing to hear from a candidate who is attempting to focus on the things that we, as Americans and Texans, have in common rather than our differences,” said Grimes County resident Jon C. Fultz. “Additionally, while Beto was clear about where he stands on various political issues, he indicated that he values the opinions of others regarding such issues, including those who may disagree with him.”

“It was nice to see a cross section of people being interested in what is going on, it has been my experience in Navasota that people don’t want to participate,” said Weinkauf. “He was passionate, spoke about issues that mattered to me and it was true excitement. He was supposed to speak for ten minutes with a ten-minute Q&A and his team had left without him because he wouldn’t stop talking — 20 minutes turned into almost two hours.”

“His philosophies are completely different than mine, because I am very conservative. I am glad I went to see him, he speaks well but I don’t agree with his words. He is very charismatic, a very good speaker, reminds me of Obama in many ways — he has a warm and fuzzy feeling about him,” said Westmoreland. “But I am opposed to his ideas, he danced around socialism because he is a socialist. He wants illegals to have free healthcare and that is socialism to me.”

Meet the Candidates

Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke, who has been the U.S. Representative for El Paso since winning the election in 2012, is a fourth-generation Texan with a Bachelor of Arts in English from Columbia University. Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz, who has been the junior U.S. Senator for Texas since winning the election in 2013, was born in Canada and raised in Houston with degrees from Princeton University and Harvard Law School.

O’Rourke is married with three children. Cruz is married with two children.

Both candidates have been making news nationally, as their platforms are diametrically opposite on many issues, such as immigration, healthcare, gun rights and a bevy of others.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; beto; cruz; tx2018; veteransvote; vfw
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I do not normally attend rental events, but I attended Saturday to make sure things ran smoothly,” said Dry, who noted there were only two requests he could not allow at the VFW Post. “They wanted to open the doors (to the Flight Deck Lounge) and I couldn’t allow that and they wanted to take the flags down, I didn’t only say no, I said hell no, you don’t take the flags off the wall. I can’t believe any American would ask us to do that and I don’t know why he wanted them down or what he was going to put up instead.”

1 posted on 09/07/2018 5:22:03 PM PDT by Mr.Unique
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To: Mr.Unique

Most annoying election ever.


2 posted on 09/07/2018 5:23:08 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Mr.Unique
FWIW:

Cruz challenger Beto O'Rourke's campaign denies asking VFW to remove flags for campaign event

3 posted on 09/07/2018 5:24:23 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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O’Rourke’s campaign is denying that anyone with the campaign asked it to be done.

Hmmmmm.....


4 posted on 09/07/2018 5:25:17 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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The VFW guy knows what happened first hand.

The Beto spokesman can only repeat what others told him.

5 posted on 09/07/2018 5:27:15 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Mr.Unique

The VFW chapter commander told Mr. Roark: “Hell NO.” Good for him.


6 posted on 09/07/2018 5:27:28 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Mr.Unique

The word of some political campaign hack is not worth spit against the word of the members of the VFW Post.


7 posted on 09/07/2018 5:27:35 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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From the Navasota Examiner:
“I do not normally attend rental events, but I attended Saturday to make sure things ran smoothly,” said Dry, who noted there were only two requests he could not allow at the VFW Post. “They wanted to open the doors (to the Flight Deck Lounge) and I couldn’t allow that and they wanted to take the flags down, I didn’t only say no, I said hell no, you don’t take the flags off the wall. I can’t believe any American would ask us to do that and I don’t know why he wanted them down or what he was going to put up instead.”


8 posted on 09/07/2018 5:27:43 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Mr.Unique

Beta O’Cuck doesn’t want to trigger his supporters by appearing with American flags.


9 posted on 09/07/2018 5:27:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Mr.Unique

Chuck Norris lives next door to Navasota....

... he could open a can of woopass on Beto by just sneezing.....


10 posted on 09/07/2018 5:30:30 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Or Beto’s spokesman could be lying through his teeth.

Somebody is.


11 posted on 09/07/2018 5:31:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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Still can’t get over that name “Beto.” Sounds like a mafia figure.


12 posted on 09/07/2018 5:31:58 PM PDT by Fungi
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Still can’t get over that name “Beto.” Sounds like a mafia figure.

It was the name of the town drunk in the small town where I grew up. ;)

13 posted on 09/07/2018 5:34:13 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Fungi

Nickname designed to fool his constituents into believing he’s Mexican. He’s not.


14 posted on 09/07/2018 5:35:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Mr.Unique

BTW, anyone else wondering why, if the demand was in fact made, the O’Rourke campain thought the VFW would be cool with the request....


15 posted on 09/07/2018 5:36:12 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Mr.Unique
Any FReeper or conservative who is still bitter over the 2016 election needs to get over it, STAT.

Voting for Ted Cruz, if you live in TX, is a complete no-brainer. If you are still pissed that Cruz didn't get the nomination, or tried to sabotage Trump, then that's your problem and you need to work it out.

DEAL WITH IT. GET OVER 2016. Support Cruz, a mind-blowingly brilliant Constitutional scholar and debater.

16 posted on 09/07/2018 5:36:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GOAT POTUS TRUMP)
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To: Mr.Unique

I would have to drink heavily too at any lunatic liberal campaign event for Beto or any other lunatic liberal.
The VFW should have cancelled the rental when told to remove the flags.


17 posted on 09/07/2018 5:38:12 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: Mr.Unique
Just one reason why I wonder about the VFW, from late July....

VFW scolds members for heckling the press during Trump speech

18 posted on 09/07/2018 5:38:19 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Fungi

Robert Francis O’Rourke


19 posted on 09/07/2018 5:40:27 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Mr.Unique

We’re approaching a 1st Kings Chapter 18 junction in our Nation. With kElijah it was, “Choose! Serve God, or Baal?!” In the U.S. it’s become, “Choose! Serve God, our Constitution, our Banner and our Anthem? Or turn from God, keep killing babies, open the borders and eliminate Law Enforcement?” JMO.


20 posted on 09/07/2018 5:40:53 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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