Sorry for double post....don’t know how that happened.
Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only, please.
GOLD
PART 2
INTRO:
This is a discussion of a past series of Q posts, #194-197.
The heavy lifting of research for this post was done during the recent “Q drought. While I realize we may be in a possible Q Flurry, I know that no one here would be so unkind as to suggest I should wait on posting and documenting this material. I ask your forebearance, and if it is material you are not interested in, I beg you to scroll past and be of good cheer.
THE DIVING PROCESS:
In the last thread, in my post 178, which is the Part 1 of this series, I posted the results of an extensive dig I did into the instances Q uses the word “GOLD.”
Link to the thread for Part 1:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3681095/posts?q=1&;page=151 - scroll to post 178
In that post, I was guilty, as I sometimes am, of burying the lede.
What I found that was most exciting to me in that post 178 was the information which I cited in the discovery described in part “F.”
Q used the term “Gold” or implied it in pictures in #194,195,196, 197, and 1771.
For this discussion of Q’s use of “Gold,” I am focusing on Q drops #194-197.
To review,
Q#194 ASKS:
“...(Y) What does it mean to be covered in gold?
Which couple was photographed covered in gold?...”
Q#197 STATES:
“Ancient Egyptians considered gold “the skin of the gods” — specifically the sun god Ra — and often used it to craft objects of spiritual significance.
Why is this relevant? Q”
THE EUREKA(!):
What I am doing back flips over is that not only have I found at least some of the relevance, [CAPSTONES, OR PYRAMIDIONS] but also perhaps more importantly, I HAVE FOUND THE EXACT QUOTE SOURCE Q CITED!!!
I found the “relevance” in a wikipedia entry on “covered in gold:”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramidion
“A pyramidion (plural: pyramidia) is the uppermost piece or capstone of an Egyptian pyramid or obelisk, in archaeological parlance. Speakers of the Ancient Egyptian language referred to pyramidia as benbenet and associated the pyramid as a whole with the sacred benben stone. During Egypt’s Old Kingdom, pyramidia were generally made of diorite, granite, or fine limestone, then covered in gold or electrum; during the Middle Kingdom and through the end of the pyramid-building era, they were built from granite. A PYRAMIDION WAS “COVERED IN GOLD LEAF TO REFLECT THE RAYS OF THE SUN”; during Egypt’s Middle Kingdom pyramidia were often “inscribed with royal titles and religious symbols….”
SNIP
The article says: “See Also:”
“Washington Monument, which has a solid aluminum pyramidion that serves as a lightning rod.”
Q’s QUOTE SOURCE:
I did a search using the phrase from Q#197, “skin of the gods,” and this was the stunning return:
https://classroom.synonym.com/uses-gold-ancient-egypt-5331.html
Uses of Gold in Ancient Egypt
By Dan Ketchum ; Updated April 25, 2017
“…Spiritual Value
In contrast to the monetary value many cultures place on gold, its significance and usage in ancient Egypt revolved around spirituality. ANCIENT EGYPTIANS CONSIDERED GOLD “THE SKIN OF THE GODS” — SPECIFICALLY THE SUN GOD RA — AND OFTEN USED IT TO CRAFT OBJECTS OF SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE. Obelisks, statues of gods and death masks are some of the objects the ancient Egyptians crafted from solid gold. Due to gold’s durability — it held up to the Egyptian heat far better than silver — ancient Egyptians associated the metal with eternity, which made it popular for use in funerary objects, such as gilded coffins or vessels and jewelry entombed with the dead. These ornaments also served to indicate the social status of the departed….”
The article is not long, but worth reading. The first word after the direct Q quote is “Obelisks” - which are columns with a pyramidion cap, as described in the article on pyramidions.
Q often uses an odd /__\ symbol with no cap on top several places in the drops. (I have not done a bunny search locating all drops with those yet).
My thought is that this “/__\” reference is pointing to that missing capstone, not only of the Great Pyramid, but also possibly something of significance having to do with the Cabal, the Great Pyramid-with-Eye which appears on our money, as well as the triangular Cabal hierarchical structures/families he sometimes refers to when he uses that open ended triangle figure.
I then go on in that original post 178 to discuss my OWN thoughts and reasoning as to the meaning of some of this data TO ME, which I will not repeat here.
THE QUESTIONS:
A Fellow FReeQ was gracious to spend time reading through the data, and was able to see what I saw about the RELEVANCE and QUOTE SOURCE. Fellow FreeQ posed the following 6 questions to me, and encouraged me to continue digging:
1. Is the author of the article or anyone mentioned in it significant?
2. Is there something in the aluminum cap on the Washington Monument? How about in similar obelisks? (Have you heard about the obelisks in certain important cities in the world? I forget where I read that. FR? London, is one of them. I wonder if their caps are significant.) Your mention of the topless pyramids that Q has posted makes me wonder about that.
3. From the article: “Slaves, including children, were used to extract and process the ore.” Are we still slaves being used to extract gold?
4. I read a creepy account of Napoleon spending the night in an Egyptian pyramid. Supposedly it gave him some sort of power. I also remember reading about “pyramid power” long ago. People were saying it could “magically” sharpen razor blades if they were left in one overnight. I forget what the other claims were. But it was very flaky/occult/supernatural stuff.
5. Washington Monument was badly damaged in earthquake (2011). Wikipedia says it continues to be plagued by problems since then. It’s been closed off and on for repairs and apparently is currently closed. Hmmmm. (I have a slight aversion to pyramids/obelisks due to an uneasy feeling that there is something un-Christian about them.
6. I wonder if it would be an interesting research project to find out who was behind the building of the Washington Monument and who funded it. I wonder if that is one of those things where the “known” facts are covering up the real facts - kind of like with shell companies covering up who really owns them.
~ ~ ~ ~
The following posts on this subject will be my initial effort to answer these questions. The answers do require a lot of text to properly document them - and even then, they are not fully answered to my satisfaction. Because of he volume of data I plan to be posting, this as a series with 6 parts.
END Part 2
GOLD
Part 3
This is the continuation of data relevant to the use by Q of the word “GOLD” in #194-197.
Fellow FReeQ posed a series of 6 questions which were quite enticing, to me, so I went into the bunny hole again in an effort to answer them.
THE FIRST QUESTION:
1. Is the author of the article or anyone mentioned in it significant?
ANSWER:
These are the things I found in an effort to find out the answer to the question of “WHO IS DAN KETCHUM?,” THE WRITER OF THE QUOTE cited by Q.
I will be citing the sources as I found them, and where they led me, so you can take part in the search with me.
The article Q quoted was written in April 2017, prior to the November drop #197.
DAN KETCHUM
A.
There is an Olympic swimmer “Dan Ketchum”
https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/ke/dan-ketchum-1.html
He was a GOLD and silver winner:
“ Born in Pennsylvania, Dan Ketchum moved to Ireland as a young boy when his father was transferred, and Dan learned to swim at the Limerick Swimming Club. On his return to the US he attended Sycamore High School in Cincinnati, and University of Michigan (â05) where he studied mechanical engineering. In the summer of 2001 he represented the United States at the Universiade, winning a bronze in the 200 freestyle and a silver in the 4 x 200 free relay.
Dan’s 2004 season was a year to remember as he became an NCAA champion in the 4 x 200 free relay with the Wolverines, was a member of the 4 x 200 free relay team that won gold at the World Short Course Swimming Championships and was also a member of the USA 4 x 200 freestyle relay team that won gold at the Olympic Games in Athens, Greece.”
AND
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Ketchum
“…He assumed the role of head coach of the swim team at Loveland High School starting in the 2009-10 high school swim season. During his first season as head coach he led the Tigers to their best results in history at the 2010 OHHSA Swimming and Diving Championship Meet where his boys finished 7th overall and the girls finished 14th overall.”
That could be him, right? The “GOLD” medal could have attracted the Q team to his work. However, there is no mention of writing or blogging in this person’s background, and I could find no picture to match the one of the author at the Source article.
So moving on to the second possibility:
B.
An Author/Photographer/Jack of many trades
https://danketchumvideo.net
At the end of the Article quoted by Q, this appears about the author:
About the Author - Q’s Dan Ketchum:
“Dan Ketchum has been a professional writer since 2003, with work appearing online and offline in Word Riot, Bazooka Magazine, Anemone Sidecar, Trails and more. Dan’s diverse professional background spans from costume design and screenwriting to mixology, manual labor and video game industry publicity.”
Comparing between A and B, I’m guessing B is more likely. No comparison picture, though.
It appears B has done the photography for a skin care outfit:
https://www.charlottesbook.com/category/skincare/aging/
This link info seems interesting, but I really don’t know what to make of it. I think the product is Retin A. The ad writing makes use of a black field, white letters, and a “Q” (for “question) as it uses the question format to convey information. [Where have we seen that before?]
One of the people listed as being a “Community Member” at that site is “Sarah Carter” but I could not find a photo which I was certain was portraying THEIR Sarah Carter. OUR Sarah Carter, of course, is Sarah **A** Carter. So, see what you think!
B has done some technical writing:
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/search-outlook-calendar-46129.html
Here are some of B’s wedding photos:
https://www.facebook.com/danketchumweddingvideo/
(I don’t do fb )
Contact info for B:
https://danketchumvideo.net/contact/
Because I have learned to my sorrow that links can go away, here is what his contact page says:
Contact
I am available for Colorado weddings and events from now until May 2018. I am moving to Southeast Michigan in May 2018, and I will be available for events there June 2018 and forward.
You can contact me directly here:
E-mail:
ketchumd89@gmail.com
Alternatively, you can fill out this simple form which will get you directly to me as well:
Name(required)
His contact page indicates he just moved from Colorado to Michigan in May. His Q Article was written in April?
No picture to compare to the Q article’s Dan.
C.
Comic Book Character:
I can’t draw the connection, and there probably isn’t one, but there is a comic book figure named “Daniel -Danny- Ketch” - from Marvel Comics. His super hero character is “Ghost Rider”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_(Danny_Ketch)
Howard Mackie and Javier Saltares creators
D.
The TWITTER Asian - [Picture shown at bottom of Q’s article shows a Caucasian,]
https://twitter.com/danielketchum
Blurb - which may or may not be true - but it doesn’t sound like our guy:
“Asian. Adopted. Gay. Sr. Franchise Art Director for Magic: The Gathering. You know the drill: Tweets are from me, not my place of work.
New York, New York”
Curiously to me - the first post is regarding a Cartoon: “X MEN” if I read it right. - I don’t do twitter.
Well, without going absolutely obsessive on this I’ll let this be enough on Who is Daniel Ketchum? for now.
TENTATIVE CONCLUSION:
So far I am not seeing if there is something about Dan Ketchum himself, (other than his outstanding article,) that is particularly relevant from Q as a requirement for further search. However we know that sometimes things like that can change.
END Part 3
GOLD
Part 4
The SECOND QUESTION:
2. Is there something in the aluminum cap on the Washington Monument?
ANSWER:
I found a lot on the Aluminum Capstone:
https://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/9511/binczewski-9511.html
At the time of its placement, aluminum was apparently quite expensive.
Some consider this a “watershed event in the subsequent emergence of the modern massive aluminum industry.”
Names mentioned in this history include:
- William Frishmuth - Frishmuth foundry in Philidelphia
- Colonel Thomas Lincoln Casey, Corps of Engineers, United States Army. The engineer in charge of completing the Washington Monument
Captain Davis, Casey’s assistant. He investigated a pricing disagreement between Frishmuth and Casey
There is a discussion of chemical composition, functional purpose (part of lightening rod system- which underwent a number of modifications ) Commemoration of the casting in the mid 1980s.
Discussion ensues of William Frishmuth - A truly amazing guy:
“…. By 1860, he had become increasingly interested in politics and was a very active anti-slavery advocate. During the 1860 presidential campaign, he supported Abraham Lincoln on the emancipation issue and traveled the mid-Atlantic and New England states addressing the German-speaking communities on his behalf. This effort resulted in the close acquaintance of Lincoln, who took a liking to him and invited him to Washington, D.C., for the presidential inaugural. When the Civil War began, Frishmuth was appointed as a special secret agent in the U.S. War Department by the Secretary of War at the request of Lincoln. In 1861 he was reportedly awarded $200 in gold from Lincoln’s private purse for capturing three spies…”
There is a discussion of Frishmuth’s casting accomplishment:
“…It should be remembered that during that period there was virtually no knowledge of the dissolved gas in aluminum and its manifestation as porosity in the finished casting. Sixty years later, Eastwood10 cited the case of cast aluminum automobile steering wheels made in the 1915 period that “were polished to a high luster in which the condition of pinhole porosity stuck out like a sore thumb.” Frishmuth’s casting 30 years earlier avoided this. What did he know in preparing the metal?
There were no filtering or degassing procedures for casting aluminum in 1884. Melting, solidifying, and remelting was the primary means of improving final cast metal quality. The polishing methods for the large surfaces of the pyramid, together with the relatively soft aluminum metal, would have exacerbated any cast surface imperfection (e.g., the familiar comet tail encountered today by people inexperienced in polishing small aluminum metallographic specimens). Finally, the inscriptions engraved on the pyramid’s sides would have been adversely affected by any surface imperfection and undoubtedly the meticulous Casey would not have tolerated or accepted this.
The casting’s size was only one part of Frishmuth’s achievement. The quality of it was quite another….”
More info on the Monument in general can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Monument
AND
http://www.american-historama.org/1881-1913-maturation-era/washington-monument.htm
Fellow FReeQ’s QUESTION continues:
How about in similar obelisks? (Have you heard about the obelisks in certain important cities in the world? I forget where I read that. FR? London, is one of them.
ANSWER:
Yes that’s true. I’ve known this for a long time, but had not thought about it recently. Good catch. So into the bunny hole I go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk
Here is a listing of the locations of ANCIENT existing obelisks. You are certainly correct about ONE IN LONDON…. And there is ONE IN THE VATICAN.
There are ANCIENT Egyptian obelisks in the following locations:
Egypt – 8
Pharaoh Thutmosis I, Karnak Temple, Luxor
Pharaoh Ramses II, Luxor Temple
Pharaoh Hatshepsut, Karnak Temple, Luxor
Pharaoh Senusret I, Al-Masalla area of Al-Matariyyah district in Heliopolis, Cairo
Pharaoh Ramses III, Luxor Museum
Pharaoh Ramses II, Gezira Island, Cairo, 20.4 m (67 ft)[17]
Pharaoh Ramses II, Cairo International Airport, 16.97 m (55.7 ft)
Pharaoh Seti II, Karnak Temple, Luxor, 7 m (23 ft)
France – 1
Pharaoh Ramses II, Luxor Obelisk, in Place de la Concorde, Paris
Israel – 1
Caesarea obelisk
Italy – 13 (includes the only one located in the Vatican City)
Rome — 8 ancient Egyptian obelisks (see List of obelisks in Rome)
Piazza del Duomo, Catania (Sicily)
Benevento, two obelisks
Boboli Obelisk (Florence)
Urbino
Poland – 1
Ramses II, Poznan; Archaeological Museum, Poznan; (on loan from Ägyptisches Museum und Papyrussammlung, Berlin)
Turkey – 1
Pharaoh Tuthmosis III, the Obelisk of Theodosius in the Hippodrome, Istanbul, along with the Byzantine Walled Obelisk and the Serpent Column
United Kingdom – 4
Pharaoh Tuthmosis III, “Cleopatra’s Needle”, on Victoria Embankment, London
Pharaoh Amenhotep II, in the Oriental Museum, University of Durham
Pharaoh Ptolemy IX, Philae obelisk, at Kingston Lacy, near Wimborne Minster, Dorset
Pharaoh Nectanebo II, British Museum, London (pair of obelisks)
United States – 1
Pharaoh Tuthmosis III, “Cleopatra’s Needle”, in Central Park, New York
I did not get into generating a list of modern made ones.
QUESTION:
Fellow FReeQ wondered about those other obelisks scattered about:
“I wonder if their caps are significant. Your mention of the topless pyramids that Q has posted makes me wonder about that.”
ANSWER:
I agree it is a good question, but I elected not to bunny hole that - at least not right now.
END Part 4
GOLD
Part 5
THE THIRD QUESTION:
3. From the Q article: “Slaves, including children, were used to extract and process the ore.” Are we still slaves being used to extract gold?
ANSWER:
Wow. So it would seem…. And not only are we producing wealth from the earth for them…. the blood diamond topic might fit in here nicely.....AND THEY are mining US for our genes, DNA, and blood apparently.
I did a very cursory search and found the following report about teenagers enslaved by criminal gangs to mine for gold:
https://www.equaltimes.org/south-africa-s-gold-slaves#.W4TPvS2ZOMI
AND
https://www.freetheslaves.net/about-slavery/slavery-today/
EXCERPT:
“...New slavery has two chief characteristics—it’s cheap and it’s disposable. Slaves today are cheaper than ever. In 1850, an average slave in the American South cost the equivalent of $40,000 in today’s money. Today a slave costs about $90 on average worldwide. (Source: Disposable People: New Slavery in the Global Economy. See all Free the Slaves books.)
Modern slaves are not considered investments worth maintaining. In the 19th century it was difficult to capture slaves and transport them to the United States. But today, when someone in slavery gets sick or injured, they are simply dumped or killed.
Slavery flows into our homes, offices, and schools through many of the products we buy. Slaves harvest cocoa in West Africa, and it ends up in our chocolate. Slaves make charcoal in Brazil, which is used to run smelters that make steel for our cars. Many food products and raw materials are tainted by slavery—such as tomatoes, tuna, shrimp, cotton, diamonds, iron, sugar, and gold... “
These things ought not to be.
THE FOURTH QUESTION:
4. I read a creepy account of Napoleon spending the night in an Egyptian pyramid. Supposedly it gave him some sort of power.
ANSWER:
I did not run into any telling of particular stories which claimed to specify what Napoleon’s experiences might have been.
I actually located a discussion of that topic in reddit!
According to the first reddit guy, who started the thread, Napoleon did not tell anyone the particulars, because he said he did not think anyone would believe him….but even that story seems to have been debunked by the second reddit guy. The thread generated some other interesting stuff about France.
HOWEVER this caught my eye because of notorious CIA characters mentioned:
Reddit guy:
“Using Google Books, I attempted to trace the anecdote you cite, complete with quote, back to its Ur version. The earliest account I could find was one written by John Sack and published by ESQUIRE IN APRIL 1975 AS “HOW I BECAME THE FIRST PERSON IN HISTORY TO SLEEP IN THE GREAT PYRAMID”. PERHAPS REVEALINGLY, THE ANECDOTE WAS CITED AS ONE OF A PAIR, THE OTHER BEING A CLAIM MADE BY KEN KESEY, THE MERRY PRANKSTER AND PROPONENT OF LSD. KESEY WAS SENT TO EGYPT ON ASSIGNMENT BY ROLLING STONE IN 1974, AND CLAIMED TO HAVE BECOME “SICK UNTO DEATH” AFTER A FEW MINUTES IN THE KING’S CHAMBER.”
[The next reddit guy responds:]
“Good sleuthing. I would point out that there are some other antecedents in “pyramid literature,” such as H. P. LOVECRAFT’S “UNDER THE PYRAMIDS”, WHICH WAS GHOSTWRITTEN FOR HARRY HOUDINI AND PUBLISHED AS “IMPRISONED WITH THE PHARAOHS.” That story doesn’t have a direct connection to the Napoleon tale, but it shows the influence of the Egyptology craze in the earlier part of the 20th century.”
[Next Redditor:]
“I also remember reading about “pyramid power” long ago. People were saying it could “magically” sharpen razor blades if they were left in one overnight. I forget what the other claims were. But it was very flaky/occult/supernatural stuff.”
[texokie’s comment:]
I remember all that stuff too! I knew a bunch of people who had them and thought the power was real. I never decided one way or the other. Too busy! LOL!
The above reddit thread gets into some of that as it continues, including possible use as grain storage facilities.
END Part 5
GOLD
Part 6
THE FIFTH QUESTION:
5. Washington Monument was badly damaged in earthquake (2011). Wikipedia says it continues to be plagued by problems since then. It’s been closed off and on for repairs and apparently is currently closed.
ANSWER:
Some of the links I saw showed it being closed indefinitely. However I did see this 2014 link where it was being reopened, there is also a recap of the monument history:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-washington-monument-20140511-story.html
Here is the origin of the choice to put in this kind of memorial, as opposed to earlier ideas under discussion of equestrian statues (two already existed) or a tomb.
“…Progress toward a memorial finally began in 1833. That year a large group of concerned citizens formed the Washington National Monument Society. In 1836, after they had raised $28,000 in donations (equivalent to $1,000,000 in 2016), they announced a competition for the design of the memorial:
Chapter 1
On September 23, 1835, the board of managers of the society described their expectations:
It is proposed that the contemplated monument shall be like him in whose honor it is to be constructed, unparalleled in the world, and commensurate with the gratitude, liberality, and patriotism of the people by whom it is to be erected ... [It] should blend stupendousness with elegance, and be of such magnitude and beauty as to be an object of pride to the American people, and of admiration to all who see it. Its material is intended to be wholly American, and to be of marble and granite brought from each state, that each state may participate in the glory of contributing material as well as in funds to its construction.
The society held a competition for designs in 1836. In 1845, the winner was announced to be architect Robert Mills”…”
TEXOKIE WONDERS:
“Washington National Monument Society”.... and who are THEY???
ANSWER:
These are the people who comprised the leadership of the WASHINGTON NATIONAL MONUMENT SOCIETY:
http://mallhistory.org/items/show/148
Biographical Text
Daniel Brent - I looked, but found nothing on a cursory search of that name in connection with the Monument, other than what I already have here - which is repeated in a lot of other links and sources.
James Kearney
A.
Probably not ours, but interesting nevertheless - 1930 Haiti story:
https://www.loc.gov/item/2016889634/
B. I wondered if James Kearney had anything to do with the Kearney of Kearney Nebraska:
http://genealogytrails.com/neb/kearney/earlyhistory.htm
In 1854, its name was changed to Fort Kearney, Nebraska Territory. It was so named in honor of the famous commander and Indian fighter, Phil Kearney, and was known by the overland freighters as new Fort Kearney, on account of the old fort at Nebraska City, bearing the same name.
Here is a link to Phil Kearny - parents died young, and I’m not seeing any quick references to the Washington Monument Kearney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Kearny
There is also a Stephen Watts Kearny associated with early Nebraska.
http://www.kearney.net/history2.html
I was not able to discern any parentage of either. It also appears that there was an error in dedicating the Post Office, and Kearny was gifted with an “e” and they never changed it.
So right now at square one with Kearney
Joseph Gales
Joseph Gales Jr
William W. Seaton
George Watterston
John McClelland - Stumbled onto a genealogical site which had a listing with pages of possibles, with very little to get a handle on any possible connection with the Monument Society. YIKES!
Pishey Thompson - [What a lovely quaint name!]
The following link seems the most likely selection which turned up, but this article does not confirm his participation in the Society:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pishey_Thompson
“…Emigrating to America in 1819, Thompson was in business as a bookseller and publisher on Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington. There he became acquainted with Daniel Webster, Edward Everett, and other leading figures….”
SNIP
“Thompson returned to England in 1846. He died at Stoke Newington on 25 September 1862, and was buried at Abney Park cemetery….”
ALSO:
http://history.bgsalumni.org/index.php/Pishey_Thompson
“…He had an interesting career in Washington, D.C., including terms as Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution and as an adviser to the United States government. Initially he prospered in America, but his business eventually failed, and he returned to England penniless in 1841…”
Again, no mention of participation in the Society, but his contacts would seem to suggest it being possible. He was apparently in DC in the correct time frame.
Thomas Carberry
Peter Force.
QUESTION SIX:
6. I wonder if it would be an interesting research project to find out who was behind the building of the Washington Monument and who funded it. I wonder if that is one of those things where the “known” facts are covering up the real facts - kind of like with shell companies covering up who really owns them.
ANSWER:
Exactly! After I read your question 5, I found I was asking Question 6 afresh for myself and dove in without looking at your last question and found I was collecting the source data, before I even really noted your question 6! [GMTA]
At this stage, I am still wondering about who those “Washington National Monument Society” people were. In much the same way as Fellow FReeQ, I’m wondering, because one might expect the leaders of such a Society to be quite well known, - but few of these seem to be so far - were they actually front people for the real “movers and shakers?” If so, WHO WERE THEY FRONTING? And if so, WHY?
I have permission to reveal that my Questioner, “Fellow FreeQ,” is “FreeQ generally.”
END Part 6