Posted on 08/23/2018 2:55:05 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
I would like your thoughts on who first politicized Mollie Tibbetts’ murder. Many of us have been following Tibbetts’ disappearance and have been praying for her safe return. Her body was found on the same day that Manafort was convicted on 8 counts against him and Cohen grabbed headlines with his plea deal. I thought I first heard that woman on MSNBC had said something to the effect that ‘FoxNews isn’t reporting on the Manafort and Cohen legal battles, but instead is paying more attention to ‘some girl in Iowa’. Then Sen Warren said the murder of Mollie Tibbetts was tragic but the legal problems of Manafort and Cohen was much more important. WHO IS POLITICIZING THESE EVENTS?
No one is saying how many crimes are committed by illegal aliens?
The only state I can find that tracks arrests and convictions of illegal aliens seems to be Texas. But they only do it in aggregate. It shows a lower crime rate than for Texans as a whole.
It is hard to believe that illegal aliens from Mexico, central and South America, have a crime rate *lower* than people who have grown up in the United States.
Complicating the calculations is that Hispanics south of the border have traditional crime rates higher than Americans of European descent, but lower than black Americans.
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>> “A person can’t meaningfully care about someone they have no relationship with.” <<
The Ten Commandments beg to differ with you.
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>> “It is hard to believe that illegal aliens from Mexico, central and South America, have a crime rate *lower* than people who have grown up in the United States.” <<
They most surely do not!
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Not necessarily virtue signaling. Any parent can relate to a missing child. It’s called empathy. Look into it.
Help me out. I have been looking for the numbers, but they seem rather carefully hidden, or perhaps, carefully not collected.
It is very difficult to break out Hispanic whites from others, for example.
In Texas, the number of Hispanics convicted of murder, is shown as almost exactly the same as non-hispanics.
But black Texans have a high murder rate, and white Texans have a lower rate. But non-Hispanic whites are not separated out. Yet what data we can find shows non-Hispanic whites to have much lower murder rates.
If you can point me at data about illegal immigrant crime rates, I would appreciate it.
I don’t disagree that having this happen, and it does way too often, is a real point for immigration control. But like I mentioned, by the time the election comes around, the actual truth of what happened with be so unfocused and smeared by the media, and so flooded into the public eye, that anything a GOP person says is going to be attacked with stupidity and the foolish public is going to buy it.
It’s the same old story: if you say something enough, whether it has reality or not, enough people will buy into it and attack with it, that it will gain momentum and get out of control. And all it took was that little amount of snow at the top of the hill to go down.
rwood
You’re not in contact with reality.
Everything the FNM says about immigration adds to nthe GOP advantage.
Nearly 80% of us want ALL immigration stopped!
If the fools talk about immigration, it all redounds to GOP victory.
We just have to get as crude and childish as they are and keep it going.
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“We just have to get as crude and childish as they are and keep it going.”
I’m not in on reality. How many of these conservative people has said stop all illegal immigration and send the illegal ones here back? I can’t speak for Iowa, but I can for the worst state of this in California as I was raised on it.
Nearly a quarter of the nation’s undocumented immigrants reside in California, where they constitute more than 6% of the state’s population. Nationally, the undocumented population has stabilized at approximately 11 million, following a slight decline after 2007. A combination of increased enforcement, voluntary returns, and fewer new migrants has increased the average length of residence in the United States, with 66% of undocumented immigrants having lived here for 10 or more years.
According to the National Immigration Law Center, about a dozen California cities have some formal sanctuary policy, and none of the 58 California counties “complies with detainer requests by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. In other words, the conservatives are out ran and out gunned by their liberal counterparts and the media.
Please take the time to read the cities and states on their positions on immigration. It will display the attack on our democracy and our way of life.
And they are the reality. The conservatives are scared for their jobs. They won’t say $hit about it and if they do, they will be shoved under the carpet by the media.
rwood
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>> “Nationally, the undocumented population has stabilized at approximately 11 million” <<
Bullshit! more like 20 million.
Bullshit? I got the info from this web site, from Pew Research:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
Before you start calling people out on their info, and it is not in the thread, then ask for it and you might find out your info may have been wrong. And I don’t say anything without backing information. Where did your information come from on the 20 million? Pew research is hard to argue with.
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Do you not understand that Pew is as far left as they come?
They make CNN look credible by comparison.
“They make CNN look credible by comparison.”
Then show me another researcher that doesn’t show a consistent balance of around 11 million illegals living in country at any given time. You can’t judge the integrity of an organization unless you have something solid to indicate it is not right.
US News says 11M; Migration Policy Institute (MPI) say just over 11M at 11,009,000; if you check the census folks, NPR, Forbes or anyone I can find, they all show a stability of between 11 and 11.2 millions living in country illegally at any given time. And many of those have been here for over 10 years. Should they be here? Absolutely not. They are a blight. But show me some different numbers and by whom. Otherwise you can’t say I, or the people I presented, are wrong.
rwood
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If you love globalist propaganda, we are wasting our time.
California alone has close to 10 million illegals, and a large portion of them now have drivers licenses.
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