[CondoleezzaProtege]

This is made all the more depressing when you see how glorious the trains and railway systems are in other countries, even those which are supposedly a lot more behind than ours in other ways.

And most depressing if you live in Los Angeles and the infrastructure of EVERYTHING is going to *beep* and the streets are becoming de-facto open-air refugee camps with all the homelessness that’s quadrupled.

[redhead]

thats what happens when the government tries to run a railroad...

[Publius]

Oddly enough, the City of Southern California has rediscovered the utility of rail in moving people around a densely populated area -- light rail, heavy rail metro, and heavy rail commuter. Many of the old abandoned Pacific Electric lines have come back in the modern era.

As the more recently built urban areas densify, rail is showing what it can do to move people around efficiently.