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Transgenders furious over man changing to female on birth certificate for cheaper car insurance
The Blaze ^ | July 31, 2018 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 07/31/2018 4:09:57 PM PDT by rickmichaels

Members of the transgender community are angry over a Canadian man’s move to legally change his gender to female on his birth certificate and driver’s license in order to get cheaper automobile insurance, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported.

While the 24-year-old Alberta man — referred to as “David” by CBC News to protect his identity — said he made the gender switch to save just over $1,000 annually on insurance, some transgenders said it was “stunt” that “cheapens” their cause.

“It sort of casts doubt on everybody else’s motives for making those changes,” Marie Little, a former chair of the Trans Alliance Society, told the network. “I think it gives ammunition to people who want to take rights away from trans people.”

The loophole

It used to be that Albertans had to produce a doctor’s note to switch gender markers on their personal documents, the CBC said. But in June the government halted that requirement for adults, which opened the door to simply mark their genders as M, F or X — the latter being for those who don’t fit into male or female binaries, the network said.

While “David” told the network he didn’t mean disrespect to the trans community and only wanted to save money, Marni Panas isn’t sympathizing.

“Whether he says, ‘I didn’t mean to do harm to the trans community,’ is irrelevant because the impact is very real to a community that is already quite vulnerable,” Panas, a transgender woman, told the CBC. “And he lied, so that really speaks to this person’s integrity. I certainly would question this person’s motives. It ends up being a big stunt.”

Legal consequences?

A Calgary official told the network that “David” could face legal consequences for his gender switch.

Stephanie McLean, a legislator in the New Democratic Party, tweeted that his actions amount to perjury and could have serious legal consequences, the CBC said.

Calgary lawyer Christine Viney added to the network that those who change their genders on paper to save on car insurance could run into trouble when they make a claim.

“If someone looking for car insurance knowingly misrepresents a fact they need to share in that application, then that’s a misrepresentation,” Viney told the CBC. “And the effect of that is that a claim by the insured can be invalid under the policy.”

‘Irrelevant’

Panas told the network that gender markers shouldn’t be on government-issued IDs since “they serve no purpose” and are “irrelevant.”

Service Minister Brian Malkinson added to the CBC that his office has no evidence of people changing their gender markers just to get cheaper car insurance — and those who do are “making a mockery out of something that can have a real, profound impact on people’s lives.”

“Having a system that empowers people to change their gender marker[s] is about respecting, protecting, and advancing human rights,” he said to the station. “Our goal is for Alberta to be a modern and inclusive province — one where people aren’t punished by a system that makes it difficult for them to express their own gender identity.”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: canada; freedomofchoice; genderpreference; homosexualagenda; itsachoice
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To: rickmichaels

Nothing “cheapens their cause” more than them claiming what they are not.


21 posted on 07/31/2018 4:48:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kozak

“So what authority is going to EXACTLY define who qualifies as transgender?”

I suspect the insurance company is going to go with actuarial tables. Males, trans or not, are more reckless drivers than females. A case like this might just be the pin that pops the transgender balloon.

It really has to stop as boys and men are ruining girls and women’s sports. I forget which idiot country put a non-transitioned “transgender” male in with female prisoners. He raped four of them. Just how stupid is society?


22 posted on 07/31/2018 4:49:24 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: JudyinCanada

I’m jealous that I didn’t think of it.


23 posted on 07/31/2018 4:51:33 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: rickmichaels

I’d rather he lied for insurance purposes than to invade the ladies’ bathroom.


24 posted on 07/31/2018 4:53:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Gen.Blather

I think that was somewhere in Great Britain.


25 posted on 07/31/2018 4:55:48 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: rickmichaels

why are men being charged more than women when everybody was crying how wrong it was for health insurance to do it the other way?


26 posted on 07/31/2018 5:01:37 PM PDT by jarwulf
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To: rickmichaels

> people who want to take rights away from trans people.”

What “rights” does anyone want to take away?
Is choice of bathroom a “right”?
Is demand that others use a certain pronout a “right”?
Is there something else?
If there are others explanations are any of these “rights” in the category of not being imprisoned without a trial or being able to speak, pray, and assemble according to one’s beliefs?
Or has the definition of “right” become as meaningless as the word “racism” and it’s just a way to stop discussion?

If “rights” becomes meaningless, then the right to bear arms is the equivalent of the “right” to pick a bathroom. Maybe that’s the real goal - to render the meaning of “rights” meanliness and thus the rights guaranteed by the Constitution.


27 posted on 07/31/2018 5:03:33 PM PDT by LostPassword
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To: rickmichaels
You owned a car for 4 years. You named it Brad. You loved Brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. 2 boyfriends, 3 jobs, nothing could replace Brad.

Then Brad decides his real name is Barbara, and you go medieval on his paintjob.

28 posted on 07/31/2018 5:03:36 PM PDT by x
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To: rickmichaels

What’s their bitch? I mean he’s also getting paid 78 cents on the dollar for what he was paid and he’s now paying more for hair cuts and dry cleaning. It all works out. /s


29 posted on 07/31/2018 5:08:34 PM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: Kozak
So what authority is going to EXACTLY define who qualifies as transgender?

The whole concept of "transitioning" from one gender to another complete with surgery, hormones, etc., is passé these days. Now it's all about "gender fluidity" "pangender" and whatnot. Basically, identifying as whatever gender you feel like at that particular moment and nobody can say anything otherwise about it.

30 posted on 07/31/2018 5:17:35 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: rickmichaels

They’ve been mad at cross-dressing drag queens, too. How dare those men dress as women and present as women but not identify as women!


31 posted on 07/31/2018 5:30:47 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: jarwulf

Same with Life insurance. It’s only an issue if it adversely effects women. There are a lot of similar things that agree men over, but nobody cares.


32 posted on 07/31/2018 5:32:39 PM PDT by redangus (actually hit her?)
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To: x
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33 posted on 07/31/2018 6:05:41 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: rickmichaels

“While the 24-year-old Alberta man — referred to as “David” by CBC News to protect his identity — said he made the gender switch to save just over $1,000 annually on insurance, some transgenders said it was “stunt” that “cheapens” their cause.”

First off, what exactly is their cause? As a conservative who lives among a very liberal family, I ask them what the cause is and they don’t even know. If this is “you must accept me because I am very different from you” sorry pal, I really don’t give a squat what you are.

I don’t think they get it. No one really cares. They created this drama and the only people who really cares are people like them.


34 posted on 07/31/2018 6:22:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud member of the DWN party. (Deplorable Wing Nut))
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To: rickmichaels

Customers who switch save an average of $500 on their car insurance. But then they waste it on makeup and hair extensions.


35 posted on 07/31/2018 6:36:44 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: blackdog

I was standing in line at a drug store in Grand Central the other day and the line wound around the women’s makeup section. I could not believe all the product and how high the prices were on everything. I had no idea what 90% of the stuff was but the women were buying it up.


36 posted on 07/31/2018 6:38:44 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: rickmichaels

“Father, I think he is only converting to Judaism for the JOKES!”

“And this offends you, as a Jew?”

“No! It offends me as a comedian!”

37 posted on 07/31/2018 6:42:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: blackdog

Yours is the best post of the thread!


38 posted on 07/31/2018 6:43:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: rickmichaels

I plan to marry my brother to avoid my paying inheritance taxes on my dad’s fortune, and publicize it long and loud. Kiss it, liberals. You made this world, now live in it.


39 posted on 07/31/2018 6:52:24 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: rickmichaels
some transgenders said it was “stunt” that “cheapens” their cause.

Yep, by $1,000.

40 posted on 07/31/2018 6:52:44 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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