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Column: Remember Kaepernick, Reid as training camps open
AP ^ | July 27, 2018 | Paul Newberry

Posted on 07/30/2018 7:27:38 AM PDT by C19fan

As NFL training camps opened this week, complete with interminable speculation about position battles, rookies who might make an impact and what players can or can’t do while “The Star-Spangled Banner” is playing, let’s remember two players who aren’t suiting up.

Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid are good enough to be playing for someone.

That much is beyond debate.

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To: C19fan
That much is beyond debate.

For Reid, probably. For Kaepernick it's very much open for debate.

21 posted on 07/30/2018 8:01:13 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: C19fan
Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid are good enough to be playing for someone...

Yeah, like any team is seeking out locker room/sideline drama queens.

22 posted on 07/30/2018 8:02:57 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Ransomed

Yep, I hear you with stoppages.. It’s annoying to try to watch a game.

My pet peeve, is that after a touchdown, there’s a natural break for commercials. So we go to a commercial break. Then, we come back for the kickoff, then we go to another commercial break of several minutes.

Another pet peeve, is that with constant replay reviews, we interrupt the flow of the game. Also, there seem to be flags on every other play nowadays. Which also delays the game, calls back what appeared to be an exciting play, etc.

Just do some simple math. The clock runs for 60 minutes, but it takes 3 1/2 hours to play a football game nowadays. What’s going on for the other 2 1/2 hours?


23 posted on 07/30/2018 8:04:26 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: C19fan
Colin Kaepernick [is] good enough to be playing for someone. That much is beyond debate.

Not even close to true! Kap has won exactly 3 games in 3 years. All of his success went away the moment that Harbaugh left SF. His backup, Blaine Gabbert, had better completion %, fewer sacks, and better YPC than Kap, behind the exact same O-line in the exact same system. If you're Blaine Gabbert's backup, you are NOT good enough to start in the NFL.

Blaine Gabbert, career- 45 starts, 44 TDs, 43 INTs, 11 wins.

Colin Kaepernick, post-Harbaugh- 19 starts, 3 wins... 6.7 YPC (30 QBs were over 6.7, including 12 over 7.9 YPC, in 2017)... now over age 30... 64 sacks in his last 19 starts... 186.8 ypg put him at #34 in 2016... 179.0 ypg put him at #34 in 2015...

Anyone who says "beyond debate" generally means that they cannot justify it and do not want to try.

24 posted on 07/30/2018 8:08:40 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Ransomed

“It’s been a complete garbage product for years even without all this kneeling crap.”

NFL football has certainly become boring, that’s for sure ... almost every team plays ball-control/not-to-lose offenses ... don’t think they’ve come up with anything really interesting since the west coast offense ... and the time spent on penalties and reviews is out of control ... the sum of all snap-to-whistles is only 11 minutes of actual football play during a 3.5 hour (or longer) telecast ... My real interest has switched to college ball, which is far more interesting and far less formulaic ...


25 posted on 07/30/2018 8:09:36 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: C19fan

Just because you have a skill doesn’t mean an employer has to offer you a job! Especially if you are going to bring a negative vibe to the employer and his current employees!

CK has NEVER been a leader, and that is what is desperately needed at the QB position. Very few teams succeed when they have a self-serving player at the QB spot - PERIOD!

And although in Hollywood the saying is “No publicity only ‘bad’ publicity,” but in the real world, bad publicity can get you fired from any where, on any day, at any time!


26 posted on 07/30/2018 8:10:31 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: C19fan

All of this is a perfect illustration of the public confusion over free speech. Football fields, locker rooms, and training facilities are workplaces. Owners set the rules, unless specific provided for in labor agreements. There is no such agreement in place. The NFL fumbled the ball on the first play and they have been fumbling ever since. They have forgotten that the players are the product and the customers are the fans. It’s not good to annoy your customers.

Consider what you can observe during a strike. The strikers are not allowed on company property and the picket lines must form on public property, not on company property. That’s how all of this works and the players complaints and grievances need to be conducted off the field .


27 posted on 07/30/2018 8:11:12 AM PDT by centurion316 (Back from exile from 4/2016 until 4/2018.)
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To: C19fan

ten years from now the leftist fake stream media will STILL be declaring Kaepernick as fit to play and rarin’ to go ... of course, even the best of quarterbacks can’t come back after a three year absence, much less a proven loser like Kaepernick ...


28 posted on 07/30/2018 8:13:03 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: Teacher317

You get a slow, aging unproductive QB with Kaepernick, while also risking losing fans, losing revenue, and having a massive distraction from your team... all for a 3-16 QB who has zero chance of leading you to the post-season. What GM wants all that, for so little return??


29 posted on 07/30/2018 8:13:23 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Also, there seem to be flags on every other play nowadays.

Since the rule change permitting offensive blockers to use hands holding calls have more than tripled. Go back to the old rules, blocking with shoulder, forearm, closed hands inside the elbows not extended straight only, and save lots of penalty delays.

30 posted on 07/30/2018 8:14:02 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: C19fan

Yeah a strike. I would love to see a strike.
That will teach us how much we need them....


31 posted on 07/30/2018 8:16:14 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: C19fan
If you support the players and their "protest", then you must also support McDonald's employees handing out pro-gun and pro-life literature on the job, and protecting them from consequences.

Sports figures have FAR more opportunity to share their views in interviews, advertising, talk shows, editorials, non-profit collaborations, etc etc etc. They are the LEAST restricted of all Americans, and yet they demand to only make their protests during the one moment that it is most inappropriate, and demand to be free from consequences on top of it. Ludicrous.

32 posted on 07/30/2018 8:21:40 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I believe it was the Wall Street Journal a few years back that studied pro-football and discovered that during a three-hour match, actually game play was about 11 minutes. That is, from the moment the ball was snapped to the moment the play was over, for the whole game — 11 minutes.


33 posted on 07/30/2018 8:23:16 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"Just do some simple math. The clock runs for 60 minutes, but it takes 3 1/2 hours to play a football game nowadays. What’s going on for the other 2 1/2 hours?"

Let's take simple math one step further. An NFL game has about 100-120 "plays." Each play takes between 3-10 seconds. You're getting somewhere between 10-20 minutes of actual football for your 3.5 hour investment. Compare that to NBA (48 minutes in 2.5 hours) Soccer, (90 minutes in less than 2 hours) and NHL. (60 minutes in 2.5 hours) I won't even try to calculate the actual play time of MLB games, but you get the idea - you get a really weak show with NFL.

34 posted on 07/30/2018 8:38:34 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Red Badger

Nobody wants to buy all that drama for a 3rd string QB. And that assumes his physical skills have not atrophied beyond the point at which he could actually survive a training camp.


35 posted on 07/30/2018 9:28:11 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

I’m betting he’s put on a few pounds...................


36 posted on 07/30/2018 9:32:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: C19fan

Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid are good enough to be playing for someone.

That much is beyond debate

Uhm, actually no, that is NOT beyond debate. That’s the point entirely - if they are SO talented, and their skill levels are SO superior to anyone else, they’d be on a team. Period.


37 posted on 07/30/2018 9:36:14 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: catnipman

The news media loves to say Kaepernick should be playing. Nobody wants a cancer in the club house. That is what he is.


38 posted on 07/30/2018 9:37:39 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Red Badger

... and Kaepernick wasn’t getting around all that well before he got benched. Pretty much a piñata back there.


39 posted on 07/30/2018 9:38:58 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Democrats hate too much
Kaepernick is simply just a sociopath having fun.

I think he's just a dumb schmuck who is being led around by the gonads by his radical Muslim girlfriend.


40 posted on 07/30/2018 9:53:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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