Posted on 07/18/2018 10:03:26 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
July 17, 2018 marks 100 years since Russias Romanov family was executed by Bolsheviks in the basement of the Ipatiyev house in Yekaterinburg.
Yet outside Yekaterinburg, the 100th anniversary of Romanovs deaths is passing with little notice from the government. The memory of Nicholas IIs and his familys deaths remain largely unprocessed.
The death of the Romanovs remains a controversial moment in Russias history. Tsarism and Bolshevism are for the most part not presented as conflicting forces in a battle in which one order defeated another. Rather, tsars, Bolsheviks and later communists, are seen as a succession of greats. In Moscow, visitors can admire the glamour and grandeur of the tsars at the Historical Museum in the Red Square before lining up for the Lenin Mausoleum only a few steps away.
Today, Russia is facing a rise in the popularity of pre-Revolutionary culture alongside an enduring Soviet legacy. According to recent polls by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM), the popularity of Nicholas II, as well as Lenin and Stalin, has increased considerably since 2008. President Vladimir Putin, who embraces one-man greats from all Russian eras, embodies this unusual combination.
The national narrative of greats also stands at odds with academic interpretations, which take a critical perspective of both Nicholas IIs often inept governance and of the Bolsheviks violent excesses.
The canonization of Nicholas II and his family by the Russian Orthodox Church as Christian martyrs in 2000 diminished their identity as political actors subject to academic scrutiny.
The narratives of conflict and violence have been subsumed by narratives of great leaders. This cult of greatness celebrates impact over ethos. It nurtures a vacuous understanding of Russias political traditions and legacies at a time when Russias fledgling civic values require a recognition of the past.
(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...
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As tragic as it was, you cant deny from the Bolshevik-perspective, executing the Royal Family was a smart move. It took a lot of wind out of the sails of the Whites, who wanted to restore the Monarchy. It wasnt personal, it was business.
Beautiful and elegant.
They were holding them as negotiation chips but panicked as White Russian forces approached.
There were/are surviving Romanov's but their era was gone after 1917 and there was no serious talk of restoration.
It is very, very, unfortunate, but I can see why they had to be killed. So long as any of them lived, even in exile, there existed the possibility that the monarchy could be restored. The Russians are excitable about their Tsars, and much murder is done trying to restore this one or that one. Google my screen name for a particularly bloody example. Sad as it is for those innocent girls and the young boy, those children would have cost the lives of tens of thousands had they lived -- "Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown".
My wife’s has a hereditary “disease” as well but it is skeletal in nature. Most noticeably her bones stopped growing when she was about 11. It is much less dangerous than not having blood that clots. But there are other complications from her condition not visibly obvious that cause additional issues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duke_Nicholas_Nikolaevich_of_Russia_(18561929)
There were surviving Romanovs.
Grand Duke Nicholas was the cousin of the Tsar and led armies during WWI and the Civil War.
There was just no realistic way of restoring the throne.
Stalin assassinated Trotsky in Mexico in 1940, he wasn’t worried about Romanovs.
Murdered, not executed.
When I hear that phrase, the first thing I think of is:
Tell Mike it was only business. I always liked him.
Very interesting info. Thank you for the info.
Having some Russian blood myself, Russia has always fascinated me, especially the cruel slaughter of the Tsars family.
Of course, everyone knows about Tasarevich Alexei and his hemophilia. Ive read that the girls werent, themselves, perfectly healthy and suffered a different form of hemophilia. The Grand Duchess Maria almost bled to death during a tonsillectomy.
Ive also heard that, as she grew older, Anastasia suffered from a foot disorder which forced her to sometimes limp and suffer pain.
The murder of that family, especially the children, is an outrage. The Assassins were even bloodthirsty enough to kill Anastasias beloved dog.
I bet your wife holds sorrow in her heart for the Royal Familys murder. God Bless her and I hope her disorder doesnt get worse.
And in the event later it was millions who died.
Unless one only believes in realpolitik and not in anything higher, the only way to make sense of it is to start from the premise that the Bolsheviks were evil. Only then does the murder of children make sense. (In one of his books the late Richard Pipes described how, as the royal family was being led to the execution room, one of the young men taking them there made sure to physically molest one of the royal women, just because she was a royal and he could.)
Of course Nicholas in the several years prior had sent countless (hundreds of thousands?) of young Russian men to their deaths in insane campaigns against the much more industrialized German military.
So perhaps other than the children everyone was wicked.
My wife has had issues with her feet that may be related to her skeletal disorder. She was told of her relationship to the Queen Alexandra as a child by her mother and grandmother. They had a chart showing the family tree. But her family was Prussian and German. So in some ways I have misspoken by saying my wife was related to the Romanov family. Queen Alexandra married into the Romanov family although there were a bunch of interrelations.
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The area that Russia wants to settle them in is just north of Armenia and Georgia.
Ok, I understand.
Coincidentally, I have a foot disorder. I have Flat Feet and my feet turn out, instead of staying straight. They can be very painful when Im on my feet for very long.
Im not related to the Romanovs though. As far as I know, anyway.
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