To: donaldo
Now strictly speaking, Lee and the rebels were guilty of treason.Maybe not.
37 posted on
07/15/2018 4:47:23 AM PDT by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
To: central_va
Secession wasn’t treason. Armed rebellion was, and they were certainly guilty of that.
To: central_va; donaldo
central_va quoting Salmon Chase:
Here are the problems:
- Chase was a Democrat then running for the Democrat nomination for President.
- Naturally Northern Democrats did not want to hang their Southern Democrat allies, rather they wanted Southern votes!
- Like Democrats of the time & later, Chase here confuses the question by claiming "secession is not rebellion".
No, but rebellion is rebellion and waging war against the United States is defined as treason by the Constitution.
- Oh, but they weren't citizens so it can't be treason, they say.
Maybe, but Confederates put Southern Unionists in jail or forced them to fight & die for the Confederate cause, how just was that?
Bottom line: Lincoln, Grant, Chase & others were correct to treat former Confederates as leniently as possible, especially as they ratified the 13th, 14th & 15th amendments.
But they left us much to debate even 150+ years later!
55 posted on
07/15/2018 4:25:43 PM PDT by
BroJoeK
((a little historical perspective...))
To: central_va
Secession is one thing General. Armed rebellion against a duly elected government is another.
57 posted on
07/17/2018 3:58:47 PM PDT by
jmacusa
(Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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