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To: cuban leaf

What is the market share for PCs vs Macs? Not including iPads, iPhones. Just laptop to laptop, desktop to desktop.

No one would do cad work or software on an iPhone or ipad. Businesses don’t use Mac products because they are very expensive when compared to a PC.

Apple has always been unaffordable for me. Too rich for my tastes. And yes, I have used Macs many times. My dad is a fan.


14 posted on 07/11/2018 9:11:33 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Now that you mention it, I’ve been in IT since 1983 and worked for 18 companies. All the large companies used PC’s with the occasional mac user. The only place I ever saw Macs in any number was in the small startups, and even all of them had plenty of PC’s around. Most people with macs had a mac AND a pc. All of them did at the larger companies.


31 posted on 07/11/2018 9:54:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: dhs12345
Businesses don’t use Mac products because they are very expensive when compared to a PC.

Uh...no.

While you can buy low end Window's machines, especially laptops, you get what you pay for.

Mac doesn't serve the low end market.

When you compare feature to feature and especially the quality of the build, Macs are about the same price.

Take into consideration total cost of ownership - especially tech time - and Macs are actually cheaper for a business.

BTW, I was a certified Microsoft Network Administrator that made his money being tech support. When I opened my own imprinted sportswear business, I opted for Macs. The few Windows PCs I must have for production use give me more problems than all my Macs combined.

It's not just me. Check out this article about IBM:

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3131906/apple-mac/ibm-says-macs-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html

55 posted on 07/11/2018 12:06:20 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: dhs12345
My dad is a fan.

He still has time to ask for forgiveness.

;^)
69 posted on 07/11/2018 6:00:06 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: dhs12345
Businesses don’t use Mac products because they are very expensive when compared to a PC.

You’re wrong. Every study done has shown that Macs in the enterprise have a lower total cost of ownership than PCs. IBM discovered this and is converting all 400,000 of the employees world wide to all Apple. They found just in in-house service calls for their IT department, they are saving almost $50 million a year over what PCs had cost to keep operational.

When IBM first started installing Macs and had a mere 135,000 installed base, the IT staff servicing that number of Macs was just 34 engineers. Of all those Macs, only 5% generated any service requests at all in their first year and 98.7% of those were resolved on the first call. On the other hand 40% of the PC users generated service calls and each usually required multiple calls to resolve if not complete reimagine of the computer. IBM found they required one PC Tech staffer for every 400 PC users, but one Mac Tech could service 5,345 Mac users! That made for significant IT savings.

In the following year, IBM found the saving were even greater:

"The icing on the user preference cake is that it turns out there are solid business reasons to encourage staff to move to Mac. Not only has the company been saving between $264-$535 for each Mac deployment over four years, but just 3.5 percent of employees using a Mac will call the company help desk, he said. “Give employees the devices they want, manage those devices in a modern way, and drive self sufficiency in the environment,” Previn (IBM VP of Workplace as a Service, Fletcher Previn) explains."

Many major banks in Japan use Macs, and Alphabet/Google is primarily Apple Mac.

78 posted on 07/12/2018 2:52:29 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: dhs12345
Businesses don’t use Mac products because they are very expensive when compared to a PC.

Apple's biggest competitor in the smartphone market uses Macs extensively. E.g., here they were in a meeting about their flagship product (hint: it's not smartphones):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtRJXnXgE-A

Not 100% Macs, but certainly the majority. I would say the Mac market share at that company is much higher than in the general public.

131 posted on 07/13/2018 12:23:44 AM PDT by cynwoody
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