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1 posted on 07/10/2018 10:58:13 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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Finland wrapped up their experiment with the Universal Basic Income earlier in the year. Once they established the ‘baseline’....they came to realize that you couldn’t make it work without massive taxation. In this case, $500 a month...it might be set low enough to develop for a while, until everyone whines that it’s not enough.


2 posted on 07/10/2018 11:08:00 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

What ever happened with that Kalifornia city that was going to pay people not to commit crimes?


6 posted on 07/11/2018 12:05:39 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 trillion dollars.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Mark Zuckerturd Net Worth = 77 BILLION

Stockton Population = 300 THOUSAND

Zuckerturd can transfer to each human of Stockton 257 THOUSAND.

Divesting Suckernuts of his personal stealth to give back to the people of Stockton can make millionaires of a family of four.

Stockton’s poverty problem has a solution!

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Next, FB cofounder Chris Hughes

Chris Hughes Net Worth = 1 BILLION

Stockton Annual Unfunded Pension Liability = 30 MILLION and increases every year by 5 MILLION.

Divesting Monsieur Hughes can the City of Stockton’s Pension Fund in the black for 250 years!

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This is fun!

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But what about Zuck and Le Hughes? Poor things.

Why put them on UBI of course!


7 posted on 07/11/2018 12:09:44 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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UBI STREETCORNER

Hand out UBI $1000 bills to sidewalk pedestrians!

Tax the money from the dark side of town.

Give the free money to the bright side of town.

Progressive.


10 posted on 07/11/2018 1:00:35 AM PDT by TheNext
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I wouldn’t mind a program that gave anyone who showed up $500 for 50 hours of work a month. It would have to be supervised, of course. Never happen.....judges who destroy the nation would go nuts.


12 posted on 07/11/2018 1:39:31 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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One of the backers for the Stockton UBI program is Facebook’s co-founder Chris Hughes, whose organization, the Economic Security Project, contributed $1 million to the Stockton initiative... One-in-four people in the city of more than 300,000 live in poverty, with the median household income sitting at $49,271, compared to $57,617 nationally.
IOW, another dickwad who got rich by accident, who speaks in meaningless buzzwords and doesn't know math or economics, or even sociology. 75,000 split $1 million and get $13.33 per person. $3.6 billion would give the 75,000 who live in poverty $49,271 each. It would also cause the cost of living to rise. The barnacles getting the money would go right down and upgrade their phones and upgrade their phone plans; they'd buy nice cars; they'd be broke in 30 days.

13 posted on 07/11/2018 1:55:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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A number of years ago, Stockton declared bankruptcy. I was in Stockton a few months ago, and I am thinking, some ideas are so stupid, only a Democrat could dream it up.


14 posted on 07/11/2018 1:58:17 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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What is the criteria for obtaining this public largess?

How long will it run for (will ‘benefits’ be transfered if the beneficiaries DOA on drugs/booze ?)

Only for individuals who Voted Democrat ?

Relatives of a member of the city council ?

Does each $500 go to different people each month ?

Just some random bum sitting on a sidewalk surrounded (sanfranshithole style) by a pile of their own garbage, needles and bodily waste ?

Just 100 ??

How much you wanna bet the time to fill out the ‘study’ paperwork by public employees (and the politico spin doctors/media wonks) will cost (per month) about 5X as much as that measly $50000 ?


15 posted on 07/11/2018 3:15:39 AM PDT by elbook
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F*cking a**sholes! It is logically impossible to TEST a UNIVERSAL income on 100 people! 100 is NOT UNIVERSAL! There is no way to get through to these people! This is not a test!

Of course, this “test” will succeed! Of course the recipients will tell warm stories of how they now can stop eating maruchan raman noodles and dry crackers. They will tell you how they now can use a new diaper each time, instead of rinsing off the old one.

Obviously this will be a “success,” and they will then move on to full implementation, which will also be declared a success. A short time later, they will be raising taxes to pay for this, but will not tie it to the new free money.

There is no way to have an intelligent conversation with anyone who believes this kind of thing will work.


17 posted on 07/11/2018 4:58:34 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism, like insanity, is the denial of reality.)
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The City of Stockton should prepare for an increase in OD’s


18 posted on 07/11/2018 5:30:56 AM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Where is the $500 coming from? Most towns can’t meet their budgets on basic services.


19 posted on 07/11/2018 5:31:51 AM PDT by EC Washington
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Do you have to be in Stockton to get it? Can I just send off for it?


22 posted on 07/11/2018 6:34:59 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A pornography "star" and a foul-mouthed clown are appropriate spokesmen for the Democrat Party)
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“Fake news”.

Not defending it, but the pilot program is only for 100 people for a year or two, iirc. Not “everyone”. Not yet.

That should be long enough to make this movement’s epitaph.

If I can’t post from some sites, I don’t understand how Savage can be permitted here. He went over the deep end long ago. In some ways he’s worse than Alex Jones.


23 posted on 07/11/2018 6:49:18 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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"Stockton is a city that looks a lot like the rest of America," said Natalie Foster, co-founder and co-chair of the Economic Security Project. Stockton has a median household income of $49,271, compared to $57,617 nationally, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates. It's also diverse: More than 70% of the city's population identify as minorities.

Funny. That's not what the rest of American city's look like. Just the sh*thole cities.

24 posted on 07/11/2018 7:07:12 AM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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Time for drug dealers to have a party! ...they’ve also found a new home, along with all the users.

Congrats!


25 posted on 07/11/2018 7:11:22 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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