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I served with a lot of immigrants and the vast majority of them were good Marines.

This guy and others did have a contract. A contract should mean something.

A Pakistani that grew up in China probably speaks 3 languages and he is pursuing a PhD in geography. He should not have trouble in the private sector. I hope him the best.

1 posted on 07/07/2018 1:58:32 PM PDT by BBell
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Why do I smell the odor of Deep State as I read this article?


2 posted on 07/07/2018 2:01:00 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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You are falling for the liberal outrage syndrone.


3 posted on 07/07/2018 2:02:26 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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I read in an article yesterday that one of the conditions for citizenship was to complete basic training and he has not yet taken Army basic training, thus he is being discharged.


4 posted on 07/07/2018 2:04:00 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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When I served in Japan and other Far East countries in late 50s/early 60s, a lot of men ‘fell in love’ with Japanese and or other Nationalities and wanted to get married.

Standard at the time for marriage was E5 and below needed permission to get married.

I had a Crypto Clearance and we were told that any ‘deep’ relationships with ‘Native Ladies’ would probably end up with losing ones Security Clearance.

It may not have ‘bothered’ 80% of the crew but those of us that NEEDED a clearance of one sort or another had to walk a ‘straighter’ line.

I would imagine a lot of the ‘new wave volunteers’ were not properly vetted etc, so a problem arises then and there.


6 posted on 07/07/2018 2:06:32 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If bacon kills you and smoking kills you, How come you smoke bacon to cure it?")
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You make some good points. I’ll disagree with your overall theme though.
Do you think Gen Mattis wants to get rid of GOOD soldiers? I don’t think that’s his SOP, is it?
If he doesn’t want that, then maybe there’s more to it, that he sees, that we don’t see yet.


7 posted on 07/07/2018 2:06:33 PM PDT by Kelyan
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He may be a fine fellow but anyone with any knowledge of military security knows you do not allow foreign nationals to have access to certain information. Noforn. Tough.


8 posted on 07/07/2018 2:07:01 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Sessions. Trust the Plan.)
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always better to not have foreigners in your army, ——Marcus Aurelius


9 posted on 07/07/2018 2:08:28 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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As with EVERYTHING coming from the MSM, think no more of this story until the rest of it is told.
There is something Obamamy in the state of Denmark.


12 posted on 07/07/2018 2:15:37 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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A Pakistani that grew up in China has risk written in big letters all over him.

He probably got in when the military was being told to go for languages over a commitment to security.


13 posted on 07/07/2018 2:18:02 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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The vast majority of immigrant soldiers have remained unscathed. Those that are booted are done so because they failed their background checks, usually because of a criminal history or insufficient documentation. There is no contract being violated here, as fas as I can tell.


14 posted on 07/07/2018 2:18:31 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3669174/posts


17 posted on 07/07/2018 2:29:02 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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His background did not check out. THAT is the reason for discharges. There are probably not just immigrants being released, but it does make a good story for the Left.


19 posted on 07/07/2018 2:40:28 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray for the protection of Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan, and President Trump.)
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There’s lots of information missing from this story critical to understanding what actually happened (but actually understanding what happened isn’t why the article was written of course, trying to smear the administration as xenophobic is why the article was written)

Army recruiters sometimes find people who cannot possibly serve in the military job they’re signed up for. Occasionally it’s even not the recruiter trying to sneak one by meps to make their mission for the quarter.

Foreigners or people with significant foreign connections are signed up for jobs that require security clearances because they have critical language skills (I’m sure Chinese is in that list) and while they pass some hurdles or get waivers at some levels, they get flagged at higher levels and separated out. If the flagging occurs before they ship off for basic, it’s not a discharge. If they start basic training, they may be offered a different job or a no-fault discharge. Probably better to be processed out now than be forced to spend years begrudgingly serving as a cook rather than as a linguist, not that there’s anything wrong with cooks, but they are much different jobs.

It doesn’t, or shouldn’t at least, mean that these are bad people - - just that the facts of their lives are either not compatible with military service or the effort needed to find out exceeds their value within the military.


20 posted on 07/07/2018 2:42:28 PM PDT by jz638
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In Army boot camp, I served with a Russian emigre' who had been a Red Army draftee 10 years earlier. His MOS was medic.

I asked him why he he didn't choose linguist. He told me they told him he'd be a security risk.

22 posted on 07/07/2018 2:51:56 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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They said “IMMIGRANT”!

So, we must all cry, take his side, and hate Trump!


26 posted on 07/07/2018 3:02:40 PM PDT by CodeToad
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I served with a lot of immigrants and the vast majority of them were good Marines.
This guy and others did have a contract. A contract should mean something.

A Pakistani that grew up in China probably speaks 3 languages and he is pursuing a PhD in geography. He should not have trouble in the private sector. I hope him the best.

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Being a paki national do suppose they turne up ties to frllow paki’s imran awan or huma abedin??


27 posted on 07/07/2018 3:05:46 PM PDT by thinden
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The Comments section is hysterical. No wonder the MSM is eliminating the Comments section to their papers.


28 posted on 07/07/2018 3:06:52 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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Immigrant? He was here on a student visa? Send him home! Free up that seat for a US citizen.


30 posted on 07/07/2018 3:10:32 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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“Zhao, 31, said his “ship out” date to basic training was delayed for two years as he underwent background checks, counterintelligence interviews and rigorous reviews added as requirements for immigrant enlistees.”

1) He was “DEP”, never completed BCT or actually served therefore the “misnomer” of Enlisted is being played fast and loose with here.

2) He cannot pass a Background Check and is treated as every other individual who cannot and not allowed to Serve.

3) The attempt in 2014 to tie DREAMERS into this program under the Obama Administration was successful therefore the previous administration is responsible for forcing thiese 40 out of 17,000 in the past two years to not complete their plan to enlist.


Just the latest distraction from the Russia/Separation/SCOTUS/etc. Crisis string. Never having Resolution is designed so that this Administration cannot continue it’s successes, because that would set Rinos&Rats up to fail in the Fall.


33 posted on 07/07/2018 3:29:51 PM PDT by NoNAIS (At least THINK people)
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https://thegoldwater.com/news/30576-AP-Anti-Trump-Propaganda-Lies-About-Immigrants-Being-Booted-from-US-Army-Here-s-the-Truth


35 posted on 07/07/2018 3:37:44 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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