[prophetic]

I'd say this from a lifetime of learning how to cook, though the saying isnt originally mine: Doctors bury their mistakes, cooks eat theirs"

[Jamestown1630]

I think that Enlightened1 is correct in one sense - people do have to take more responsibility for their own health than they do.

We abuse ourselves relentlessly - and greatly just in terms of how we decide to Think and Believe - and then expect the doctor to ‘fix’ it.

I’ve had many doctors who were very good; to some of them I owe my life and the elimination of incredible pain. I can’t slight that.

(As a cook, sometimes I just throw my mistakes away - even the cats won’t eat them ;-)