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Thai official: Boys may have to dive from cave despite peril
Chicago Tribune ^ | 07/03/2018 | Tassanee Vejpongsa

Posted on 07/03/2018 6:51:18 AM PDT by BenLurkin

A top Thai official said Tuesday that heavy rains forecast for the coming days could worsen floods in the mountain cave where 12 boys and their soccer coach were located after being missing for more than a week, forcing authorities to speed up their extraction.

... Officials said Tuesday that the boys, aged 11-16, and their 25-year-old coach were mostly in stable medical condition and have received high-protein liquid food.

Interior Minister Anupong Paojinda, a member of the country's ruling military junta, said Tuesday that the boys may need to swim out using diving equipment ahead of bad weather forecast for later in the week. He said the boys would be brought out via the same complicated route through which their rescuers entered. While efforts to pump out the floodwaters would continue, Anupong said it's clear some areas of the sprawling cave cannot be drained and that in order to get out, the boys may need to use diving gear while being guided by two professional divers each. He conceded that if something went awry, it could be disastrous.

"Diving is not easy. For people who have never done it, it will be difficult, unlike diving in a swimming pool, because the cave's features have small channels," he said. "If something happens midway, it could be life-threatening."

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Cave rescue experts have said it could be safer to simply supply them where they are for now, rather than attempting to have the boys dive out. That could take as long as months, however, given that Thailand's rainy season typically lasts through October.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Outdoors
KEYWORDS: cave; rescue; soccerteam; thailand; trapped
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To: Jemian

Cave diving has claimed the lives of instructors and trained technical divers. The possibility of panic in a confined area could take away Viz. That alone will kill you.


41 posted on 07/03/2018 9:30:48 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

That is precisely why I put that caveat in there.


42 posted on 07/03/2018 10:20:35 AM PDT by Jemian (Americans are dreamers, too.)
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To: glenduh

Why did they keep walking into that cave for 2 miles?
Rock is rock.


43 posted on 07/03/2018 10:28:05 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

or 3.8 miles...


44 posted on 07/03/2018 10:29:33 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: BenLurkin

Remember that time we were over 2 miles into a cave and it flooded and we were trapped for months and there were no video games?


45 posted on 07/03/2018 10:33:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BenLurkin

Remember that time we were over 2 miles into a cave and it flooded and we were trapped for months and there were no video games?


46 posted on 07/03/2018 10:33:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

It would be life altering for anyone.


47 posted on 07/03/2018 10:36:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

When they finally get out, it’s going to feel like electing Trump after decades of uniparty rule.


48 posted on 07/03/2018 10:38:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Jemian

The bigger problem is that you really can’t rely on the assistance of a dive buddy in confined spaces. Cave & wreck diving emphasize self-rescue techniques.

They’ll have to divert or pump out the water, drill a rescue shafts (as they did in Chile) or wait months for the waters to recede. None are attractive options.


49 posted on 07/03/2018 11:00:03 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: BenLurkin

That’s actually a good idea. Hopefully they consider doing something like that.


50 posted on 07/03/2018 12:13:59 PM PDT by Halls (I'm from Texas, I am pro life!)
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To: PLMerite

That’s not a bad idea either.


51 posted on 07/03/2018 12:18:10 PM PDT by Halls (I'm from Texas, I am pro life!)
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To: Jemian
You are right diving isn't that hard. My one and only driving lesson was spit in the mask so it won't fog up, here sit on the side of the boat and lean back and fall in. Oh and don't run from a Barracuda. 😀
52 posted on 07/03/2018 1:28:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Well, I do not consider myself to be a great expert. I am not qualified to teach diving. But, I do have close to 50 dives under my weight belt. If I can dive, anyone can dive.

As to barracudas, if you're not wearing anything anything shiny and don't panic, they will leave you alone. At least the ones I've been around have left me alone. No trouble from the sharks, turtles, lobsters, lion fish, and other "dangerous" sea creatures I've been around.

But, I did have a pesky icthus obnoxiata, aka shark wah-nah-bee, give me a rough 15 minutes. He, all nasty creatures are "he", kept circling, and circling, looking for an opportunity to attach himself to my poor, tiny body. I whipped out my dive knife and kept jabbing at him. A time or two I grabbed him around the caudal pedestal and attempted to sling him away. Do you have any idea how hard it is to sling a fish underwater? My dive buddy was worthless. He was having a little trouble himself because he was laughing so hard. Choked on the air in his regulator he did. Served him right if he had drowned. Anyway, after a tense hand-to-fin combat, the icthus obnoxiata took himself off and looked for whale shark or some other creature to attach to.

That is the worst trouble I've had in the deep blue. I usually swim off the northern coast of New Guinea, Pantain Harlin, outside of Depapre.

53 posted on 07/03/2018 1:59:55 PM PDT by Jemian (Americans are dreamers, too.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I was on the Great Barrier reef on some tour boat. They even gave us scuba diving lessons.

“Okay - this is the breathing thingy. The breathing thingy goes in your mouth. Don’t breath through your nose! Breath through your mouth. Have fun!”

Stupid I suppose - but it was pretty cool. Even saw a big shark and tried to swim towards it (!?) and saw one of those huge GIANT clams like in the Popeye cartoons. Of course you could see forever and no crawl spaces to get through.

Snorkeling on the shallow reefs was prettier though - about the only thing I’ve ever done that I was really in awe of.

Most of the time I’m like “Huh - the Grand Canyon has a lot more color in the photographs.”


54 posted on 07/03/2018 2:14:42 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: minnesota_bound; sheana

An answer from the daily mail...

“It was apparently a local initiation ceremony for boys to run to the end of a cave tunnel and write their name on the wall before running back.

While they were all inside, however, a flash flood sealed off the exit forcing the boys to head further into the mountain.

Armed with a single functioning torch, they managed to reach the spot where they have subsequently been discovered.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5915565/How-terrified-Thai-boys-there.html


55 posted on 07/03/2018 5:43:49 PM PDT by glenduh
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To: Jemian
Most of my limited scuba diving was on hens and chickens reef off lower matacumbe key near Islamorada in FL. I never really loved it because I am deathly afraid of sharks. The last time I was down I guess all my friends saw the first coming and just moved away. I turned around and a 5 footer was hanging in the water about 2 ft from my face mask. I actually screamed underwater then took off for the boat. When I hit the surface I was already throwing my mask on the boat and I came up over the motor with a 40 lb pack like a cartoon character. Never went back in with scuba year again. I like to sit in the boat and fish. 😃
56 posted on 07/03/2018 7:49:51 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: glenduh

Thank you.


57 posted on 07/04/2018 5:48:06 AM PDT by sheana
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