Posted on 07/01/2018 7:59:54 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
If they want to do wildlife management hunts, thats fine.
I understand that over population can be a problem.
Hunting just for the trophy is not.
So whats she going to do with her trophy? Stuff it and put it in her living room? Or just post a picture of herself proud that she killed a giraffe with a gun while he fought back.....just how?
You can't, you need a guide and the hunts are typically on land that is leased from the govt. by the outfitters.......
And each species hunted requires a very expensive permit that is provided by the outfitters.....
Why?
ok....
If someone can afford it, and it's legal, and they want to, by all means fly to Africa and shoot giraffes. I've never understood rock concerts but I'm not about to suggest people stop going to them -- different strokes for different folks.
This isn't directed at you, just a paraphrases quote that I think hits the nail on the head with many hunters -- "hunters as a group are the moat obnoxious, self-righteous brats on earth. If you don't hunt exactly like they hunt you're doing it wrong and depending on how wide the variation between your method and theirs, you are a terrible person. Hunt with a semi-auto? Unsportsmanlike loser! Bolt or lever only. Oh yeah? REAL hunters use muzzleloaders. Oh really? I bow hunt, real men use bows. But you use a tree stand, you unethical, ambushing jerk!" Etc etc etc.
Let people do what they'll do in peace. I promise, there are many other giraffes out there.
Does anyone know if a giraffe is ‘Levitically’ clean or unclean?
My kind of girl!
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I'm so glad that there are people in our midst who know everything.
Her house is filled with all kinds of taxidermy, wall mounted and full body. If she really did do it to help the ahem poor "locals" by paying a private guide to take her through the snow in Utah for cougar, a moose in British Columbia, or some odd mountain sheep in South America or New Zealand, she wouldn't be paying the crazy costs of taxidermy and shipping the trophy (and her share of meat) back home to her two-bedroom ranch on a suburban cul-de-sac.
Wow, serial killers?
Educate thyself in the field of game management, start by reading the entire article with an open mind.
Docile? Let me guess, you probably think pheasants are a species native to N. America.
First of all, giraffes are by no means a docile animal. Fights between bulls are extremely violent and often result in the death of one of the combatants and they have been known to attack humans.
Secondly, after poaching and absolute ignorance, one of the biggest challenges facing African wildlife today is overpopulation and habitat destruction. All African countries with the means to do so (funded primarily by foreign hunters) manage their wildlife populations by controlled hunting and culling, i.e., killing of animals to reduce the destruction of their habitat and reduce the population to the carrying capacity of their habitat - and that includes giraffes and even elephants, as well as many other species. In the vast majority of cases, those animals - whether giraffes, cape buffalos, gazelles or elephants - feed the populations of nearby villages and the government receives much-needed funding for anti-poaching, habitat control and improvement and yes, culling.
Westerners who make ignorant comments about “trophy hunting” should look at the history of elephant hunting in Kenya, which was banned in 1974. At the time elephant hunting was banned in Kenya, the population was around 250,000. After 44 years in which there was no legal hunting of elephants, Kenya’s population is now down to about 20,000 elephants, due almost exclusively to poaching and habitat destruction.
South Africa, which banned the culling of elephants several years ago, has now concluded that the elephant population in Kruger National Park has grown to the point that it is 5,000 elephants over the carrying capacity of their habitat and will resume culling.
I hunt all sorts of critters for both food and profit. I understand the ecology of numbers. Rabbits eat grass, foxes hawks coyotes bobcats wolves lions bears eat rabbits. Too few rabbits and predators die off, too many predators and rabbits die off, leading to the former- predators die off. I like them all. Some taste great, some are valuable to help with finances ( although the cost of hunting is more like an expensive hobby. States regulate hunting to protect all the layers of critters, I am happy to participate. I thin the average golf course is a waste of good hunting or shooting lands.... It’s personal.
Oh, part two, you a vegan? Otherwise you indeed kill and eat critters- yeah yeah I know, a chicken pig or cow in a pen is not the same as a wild and free _____.
I am proud to kill and eat. It gives me respect for the life I live, ad the life I take. I grow a garden too. And I plant row crops for my critters to partake of....
Maybe this was a necessary kill that will help the giraffe population. Seems like sound wildlife management.
But, “hunting” it was not.
You’re only partially correct. The tourist cash is minimal by comparison. The majority of the cost of an African hunt is in the cost of “trophy” fees, which run in the tens of thousands of dollars. For the so-called Big Five - elephants, lions, leopards, cape buffalo and hippos - the cost is even greater and that money goes to support wildlife management like anti-poaching programs and habitat management. Were it not for foreign hunters, Africa’s wildlife populations would be in a far, far worse state.
You’re right, but most Americans are victims of the Bambi, Thumper and mainstream media approach to conservation.
You do realize the cost of a license to shoot one these animals, is what pays for the wildlife management and anti poaching forces that protect the rest?
Look at the Rhino, there is only 1 nation in sub saharan africa that didn’t completely ban the hunting of Rhino.... and Its the nation that today has the most rhino... South Africa.
Trophy hunting isn’t my thing either, but no doubt it has been a very effective model for wildlife management.
And what, pray tell, is your definition of trophy hunting? If you oppose shooting an animal, removing it’s head, horns and/or skin and leaving the rest to rot, I agree completely. However, that’s against the law in every single state - and in Africa.
If you define trophy hunting as choosing to take only mature, representatives of the species you’re hunting, making full use of the meat, horns, antlers, hide, etc., and choosing to go without taking an animal - sometimes for years, that is trophy hunting. In the case of African hunting, the meat from those animals and much of the skins are used by residents of local villages - and they are very thankful to get it.
It’s not dead, it’s just sleeping.
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