Posted on 06/29/2018 10:40:30 PM PDT by ransomnote
He’s caught in the honeypot?!?! ;)
Does anyone have update on Flynn case re 12:00 PM EST filing? I’m catching up ;)
I ordered a Q shirt and I’m nervous it won’t get here in time for the 4th....sigh....
? IF we were feeling charitable... :^) See me response to xone a while ago. ...and THANKS!
It says that on the back of the sign. :)
And don't get me started on Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Talk about whack jobs. And that little Home Alone spazz who was Michael Jackson's moonchild.
The abuse of child talent in Hollywood is vast and probably goes back to Alfalfa days. I hope nobody messed with my Dead End Kids. I loved those guys.
What are ya, grabbin' already?
Bagster
There’s a big company with that name that makes bearings in Joplin, MO.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/02/michael-flynn-july-hearing-date-691336
Judge sets hearing in Flynn case
The hearing would be the former Trump national security adviser’s first court appearance since pleading guilty more than seven months ago.
A pair of legal filings suggesting that special counsel Robert Mueller’s office is almost-but-not-quite ready to set a sentencing date for former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn have prompted a federal judge to order Flynn and lawyers for both sides to make an unexpected trip to court next week.
The hearing set for next Tuesday would be the first court appearance for Flynn since last December
I’m going to make a Q bumper sticker, or possibly sticker in rear window. Is your Q sticker home made or store boughten?
What are the possible implications? Could the judge simply be annoyed at having to do the administration of countless delays and not being able to plan how to handle the sentencing details in advance, or could he be pushing the SC to put up or shut up?
In case anyone cares.... From 8chan....
ok slackers.
hop in and help read the 123 new HRC emails
that were put out TODAY
>https://foia.state.gov/Learn/New.aspx
Great! Thank Q
BAGSTERAny thoughts on this one guys? What role can the Military intelligence and NSA (or Q) play in the indictment thing?
My only thought is the gathering of intelligence for evidence in the criminal proceedings. Is there something else I'm not thinking about? And what does "BANG" mean. Pull the trigger or what?
MEADSJN: Suppose the crimes involved planning, plotting, fomenting, instigating, or some other form of active involvement in a plot to create a war, or nuclear war, or massive civil unrest, or an invasion, against the USA and its people.
Then suppose your nation's main investigative and law enforcement organizations were key players in such events, and such corruption, as well as key players in the legislative and judiciary, as well as former elected and appointed members of such groups.
Justice cannot come from such corrupted groups of people. Who then could the nation depend on to pursue justice against such powerful and inter-connected groups of criminals?
Only the military. After that, only We the People, and that would turn into a Bosnian scenario (times 1000) in a hurry.
No matter how much pre-release, softening up and eventually MSM coverage of Deep State wrong-doing is done by Q supporters, and the press, I don't think the widespread use of the military to effect the arrests of civilians would ever be considered anything other than a military coup by many (probably most) people in the United States. And I'm just talking about arrests.
The US Citizenry has a long standing antipathy to the US of the US Military in police actions. It was hated as far back as the Civil War when Lincoln did it. The resulting Posse Comitatus Act has been the law since 1878.
None the less, it is possible and has been done, rarely. The 1967 Detroit Riots were put down by active duty US Army troops (combined elements of 82nd and 101st Airborne), not the Michigan National Guard. (National Guard use in riots and disasters is un-exceptional)
Still I think most people would see a huge difference between using the Army as a last resort to end terrible riots and arson after the National Guard has failed, and using them to go house-to-house to arrest 30,000 civilians based on previously sealed indictments.
(For instance, imagine if Obama had sent the military out to round up "right wing terrorists" and arrested thousands of patriots based on some sort of pretext. Would you evaluate the evidence, or site Posse Comitatas, the Constitution, and long standing American tradition before calling for Rebellion)
Just thinking ahead here there would be three main vectors of resistance to the Counter-Coup if it was executed this way. They would be: the main-stream media, the Congress (particularly if in Democratic control, but likely either way) and the Federal Judiciay.
These are interlocking vectors of resistance. The press would call the President's actions unconstitional. Liberal Federal Judges (are their any other kind? not many, apparently) would quickly declare the actions illegal, and issue writs of habeas corpus. Of course Trump could order the military to ignore these, and suspend the Writ of Habeas Corpus, as Lincoln did during the Civil War, but that would require or be the equivalent of claiming we are at war. And of course, when Lincoln did it the Congress passed a special act to give him that extraordinary power Habeas Corpos Suspension Act of 1863. Does anyone think that the Congress would give such an act to Trump?
So, in my estimation Trump would have to order the military to ignore Federal Courts, while simultaneously ignoring the Press largely calling him a usurper and the Congress working (even harder) to impeach him.
In such a situation would the military follow those orders? I think it's an open question, and probably at best you would have both pro and anti Counter-Coup troops, at all levels of the US Armed Forces.
And then, the next step that is being suggested, is that the "white hats" will take these tens of thousands of military detainees and tell us that they are not going to be tried in US Federal Courts, but rather by Military Commissions.
Even some of those who might have been convinced that the military arrests were a necessary expedient might have trouble with this announcement. The idea of the American citizens right to a "trail by a jury of your peers" is a deeply ingrained one.
In fact, as I've shown in my previous post: the history of the U.S. Military in running any sort of trials is abysmal.
Again you would have the three vectors going nuts: the Press telling the Judges what to do, the Judges telling the press what they've done and everyone in all three arenas calling for Trump's impeachment and removal (if not even more drastic measures like summary arrest by troops loyal to the Constitution). And they would have some pretty good rationale for those calls. After all:
A military tribunal is an inquisitorial system based on charges brought by military authorities, prosecuted by a military authority, judged by military officers, and sentenced by military officers against a member of an enemy army.And: The United States has made use of military tribunals or commissions, rather than rely on a court-martial, within the military justice system, during times of declared war or rebellion.
Subjecting citizens to such a regime is currently illegal under U.S. law, and is unlikely to gain any legitimacy in the eyes of most people after it occurs. Again, this is a long standing precedent:
The use of military tribunals in cases of civilians was often controversial (in the Civil War era), as tribunals represented a form of justice alien to the common law, which governs criminal justice in the United States, and provides for trial by jury, the presumption of innocence, forbids secret evidence, and provides for public proceedings.Critics of the Civil War military tribunals charged that they had become a political weapon, for which the accused had no legal recourse to the regularly constituted courts, and no recourse whatsoever except through an appeal to the President.
The U.S. Supreme Court agreed, and unanimously ruled that military tribunals used to try civilians in any jurisdiction where the civil courts were functioning were unconstitutional, with its decision in Ex parte Milligan
Now, let's look at Q's most recent posting:
1664If the plan is for the "white hats" to use the military to make mass arrests and then conduct military tribunals in place of civilian trials then I don't think Q can guarantee us "no Civil War".Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: 8704f4 No.1991829 📁
Jul 1 2018 20:13:38 (EST)
There will be no civil war.
Coordinated MSM hysteria designed to instill fear - change narrative.
NK is NOT advancing their weapons program.
Coordinated MSM hysteria designed to instill fear - change narrative.
FAKE NEWS!
Q
And whatever one thinks of Q and his posts, he's never claimed to be prophet with the ability to see the future, so I won't credit him with that ability either.
The idea of 30,000 arrests with some, many or all being made by the military and those detained put to military tribunals for judgement is so far outside the boundaries of American law, precedent and history that truly no one could say what the final outcome of such a bold move would be.
To be clear, this is only my opinion, based on some of the major themes I've seen put forward by Q and his interpreters.
One reason I remain skeptical about this course of action is it seems completely at odds with Trump, who shows an admirable patience in dealing with even the most spurious claims by Federal Judges, allowing, for instance, his travel ban to make it's way to the Supreme Court. There were other actions he could have taken, but he took the most conservative and conventional.
Under the "Military Commissions Scenario" I think he would have to silence the role of the Federal Judges at the initiation. They are probably the only one of the three vectors he can try to sideline without even worse blowback.
Turning off even obnoxious media like CNN would be viewed very dimly by most Americans, we do appreciate our first Amendment.
Dismissing Congress would be even worse. It is an unthinkable violation of the Constitution and clearly mark the end of the Republic, even if it was intended to save it.
So, I rate any of those extremely unlikely, and pretty bad as an idea.
And of course Q has recently promised us "no Civil War". To make that promise I adduce that he is NOT part of a cabal that is planning for the imminent widespread use of the military to arrest and bring to trial corrupt people in our government and other institutions. Because if he were he would know that Civil War is distinct possibility in the aftermath to such actions.
Instead: more OIG reports, and no military arrests. This seems like both the prudent and likely plan.
CHEERS!
New book of Q Proofs created. Seems to be getting good reviews.
PDF - V1.0 (direct download link): https://mega.nz/#!vTJRmQZA!AEdJ4d0oVNIxMWQTaKuJlmxBp_k7O9HBqbOwEYye8MM
DOCX - V1.0 (direct download link): https://mega.nz/#!jCIxwQSA!EKhRZmxnqTm6AemDe55iihIkFsix4dusI23CJg2mzrg
Folder containing latest version of the book + all images used: https://mega.nz/#F!afISyCoY!6N1lY_fcYFOz4OQpT82p2w
Thank Q for sharing, that was great!
In case it doesn’t get there in time, I recommend acrylic paint. Easy. Cheap. Like that family from ND rally. All but one were homemade t-shirts as far as I can tell. At any rate, it’s nice to see stuff like that when people care enough to do it themselves. (Not that there’s anything wrong with “professionally made” shirts.) Just saying don’t be ashamed of homemade!
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Not suggesting anything, just thought it was interesting. ;)
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