Posted on 06/29/2018 1:05:26 AM PDT by Morgana
FULL TITLE: Jahi McMath, the teen declared brain dead by doctors in 2013, has died undergoing surgery in New Jersey after a five-year bitter legal fight by her mother who insisted medics were wrong and she was still alive
A girl at the center of the medical and religious debate over brain death has died after surgery in New Jersey, her mother said Thursday.
Nailah Winkfield said doctors declared her daughter Jahi McMath dead on June 22 from excessive bleeding and liver failure after an operation to treat an intestinal issue.
McMath was declared dead in December 2013 when she was 13 after suffering irreversible brain damage during routine surgery in California to remove her tonsils and a coroner signed a death certificate. Several specialists concurred after neurological tests.
Winkfield refused to accept the conclusion. She said her Christian beliefs compelled her to fight for continued care for her daughter, who she said showed signs of life through toe wriggles and finger movements.
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What frightens and sickens me are the people perfectly okay with the deliberately causing death part, some of them in the medical profession.
Go read posts 5 and 7 again.
That isn’t close to what they were talking about.
Their beef was “can’t breathe without machine ventilation”.
Just for kicks: Using your favorite search engine, do a quick search for “Alive after being pronounced dead”.
Then come back and pronounce medical science infallible.
Under heavy pressure from the institutional financial bottom line.
Probably for the rest of her life.
I did a search.
Holy cow. That was frightening.
This has nothing to do with being pronounced dead.
It has everything to do with actually BEING dead.
As in rotting and decaying.
I don’t get how folks can argue against the actual rotting and decay that comes with death.
Yeah, many hospitals see people as assets instead of patients.
And when they see they can get more income by selling your parts, you get Alphie Evans.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc?
The only argument I’m in is with the people who are criticizing the mother for doing everything possible in search of a miracle.
You ever heard of a cat named Lazarus?
You keep saying that. The definition of coma does not include loss of autonomic function. Sometimes people are intubated for medical reasons but that is not the same as not being able to breathe.
I am not in favor of euthanasia so you can cut that frap
This child was declared dead. Was being kept on machines.
Now why don’t I believe you?
You bring up a good, but unanswerable point. The child was undeniably dead. But I wonder, if the physical shell is not allowed to fully die, could that entrap the soul? Prevent it from departing to heaven?
I wonder that in relation to the many cell lines we use in research. The Hela cells, for example, are still going strong, even though the original cell donor died in the 1950s. Where is her soul?
I believe the soul has long departed the body and gone to eternity. Only God knows the exact moment of death - but we leave many people on extended life support with no hope or recovery and they are not dead .... just miserable
It’s interesting over the last several years hospitals have allowed family members to stay in the patient room during a code blue. Overwhelmingly when the family sees what really happens in a code they are horrified and beg us to stop. I dont think most people comprehend just how much misery we can inflict at the end of life....
I don’t care what you believe.
Sure you do.
You responded with what you thought was a good defense of what you said.
And you came across as pro-euthanasia.
Just saw this news appear on Bing’s news. The news appears when Bing first comes up.
It’s 7:50 PM. My net’s down. Trying again.
Once can understand how a mom could claim "Christian" beliefs about the sacredness of life; however, an equally compelling case can be made for not inserting mechanical life support into the situation and allowing the girl to go to her reward in heaven.
“And then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.” —Matthew 24:23-24
Dear Darksheare, you are "thinking" with your emotions, not with objective knowledge of biomedical reality.
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