Cramer was naturalized.
Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America
https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/naturalization-test/naturalization-oath-allegiance-united-states-america
You may be one of those people that chases its tail with half-baked arguments. I know I can be mean but it runs in my family. It is what Donald Trump describes as “tough but loving”.
So my advice is to give it a rest, try to do better, and above all do not bring views based on ‘incomplete’ information to a discussion, or if you do, have the class to apologize and pledge to do better or thank those that pointed to the errors.
I will give you this, your contributions are not lies or unintended prevarications. You bring good things but they are sometimes ‘incomplete’ things. That word ‘incomplete’ is vitally important and forms a philosophy that occupies a large part of the literature of the minds that lead today’s leading edge in computer intelligence, artificial intelligence (AI) development.
If you become interested in the Philosophy of Incompleteness, start with Kurt Gödel, an admired contemporary and mentor, yes mentor, of Albert Einstein at Princeton. Gödel is arguably the greatest philosopher of the 20th Century and perhaps since Aristotle. The revolutionaries of the computer age know this.
And it would be incredibly kind and gracious to receive an apology or thank you. I know I am one to humble myself and thank a person that has corrected me. I don’t claim to know all things but I’ve been around to know a great many things and some things like ‘Incompleteness’ in mathematical theory is one thing in which I am considered a world expert.
This is true. May I bake further, or are you so certain of your contention, that no evidence needs to be provided?
Your contention, to use the legalese, is that "owing allegiance" which is a requirement for treason, can only be established via the taking or swearing of an oath.
You possess the fattest head I have EVER seen on FR. 16yrs. Daily.
Were the Rosenburgs executed for treason?
What nationality was Cramer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
how many people have been convicted of treason? how many did not swear an oath?
Cboldt didn’t even come at you with a knife - why did you come at him with a gun?
Cboldt is one of our Q go to’s.... and it is you whom I would say needs to apologize.
That was totally uncalled for. Cboldt is a good and smart man.