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Prince Harry’s plea as Veterans take own lives once every 13 days this year
Daily Mail ^ | June 9, 2018 | M. Nikol and S. Rayment

Posted on 06/10/2018 3:21:25 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Mr Rogers

Take the red pill, lifer. You know that we’re not seeing nearly enough of them teaching in high schools or as paid journalists for major news publications. You know that instructors who are members of N.O.W., for one example, will push them out whenever they can. Hell, it is common knowledge, that most of the people in our universities are suffering from penis envy. I saw police departments that couldn’t stand prior enlisted combat or MP servicemen and pushed them out left and right with false or trivial accusations.


41 posted on 06/10/2018 6:23:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

If vets want to go to college, they can. And if they melt before the NOW or liberals, that’s their own problem! The uncle who landed on Omaha Beach sure wouldn’t feel bad for them!


42 posted on 06/10/2018 7:29:09 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
"If vets want to go to college, they can."

Who said that they couldn't go?

"And if they melt before the NOW or liberals, that’s their own problem!"

Well, look what we have here: a buddy****er. That's a false characterization of fighting men who were cheated by your comrades and took it in stride.

"The uncle who landed on Omaha Beach sure wouldn’t feel bad for them!"

He cared about his buddies, and he wasn't surrounded by a drug-addled whorehouse of a society. Most of the people of the U.S.A. were very different then from the way most of the people of the U.S.A. are now.

Thank goodness, political correctness and the commie-licking free traitors behind it are finally being deposed.


43 posted on 06/10/2018 8:07:33 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: redcatcherb412

My instructor for my CCW class was an Afghanistan vet. He said that the VA tried their best to have him apply for PTSD treatment (though he had NO problems). He was astute enough to foresee the long term consequences of doing so, such as not being considered mentally able to handle firearms, maybe being on no-fly lists, etc. He said that lots of vets take the VA up on the offer of the PTSD treatment to get a monthly stipend. He told them Thanks, but No Thanks!


44 posted on 06/10/2018 8:12:28 PM PDT by taxpayerfatigue (Taxpayer Fatigue)
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To: Mr Rogers

I agree with you about pity and am not promoting that. But if people in business, academia or government are allowed to shunt or denigrate prior servicemen without any good reason,... Well, only those who pay attention see the beginnings of the consequences so far.

One of two things in general will happen. There will be a debt collapse, and the un-American political class will be discarded. Or the un-American political class will be replaced in a growing paradigm of real production and be discarded.

With the challenges headed our way, great increases in production on U.S. soil will be required. There will be no room for unhealthy social politics.


45 posted on 06/10/2018 8:21:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: taxpayerfatigue

I know a young combat engineer who had a head injury and back injury in Afghanistan (improvised explosive device on a road). The back gives him trouble, but he’s sane and smart. They told him that the head injury *is* PTSD and reportedly put it on his record.

Many of the lobbies behind the anti-Second-Amendment push are lobbies associated with the medical and psych. field. It originates in colleges, universities, and from administrators (managers) and investors.


46 posted on 06/10/2018 8:32:10 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

“Well, look what we have here: a buddy****er. That’s a false characterization of fighting men who were cheated by your comrades and took it in stride.”

If someone can’t deal with liberals in college, or in the workplace, then they aren’t very tough guys. EVERYONE faces those challenges if they are even slightly conservative. But not everyone whines, says life is unfair, they cannot make it, etc. MOST conservatives just go on with life - as my uncles did, as I have done, as my kids have done.

Meanwhile, I’ve watched able-bodied men claim to be disabled. I’ve watched people who saw less fighting than I did claim PTSD and want handouts.

There IS real disability. Those truly disabled deserve the shirt off my back! But too many recent vets wore their uniforms in airports, hoping to be thanked. Or claim problems that are almost impossible to verify, and want handouts. That is real too.


47 posted on 06/10/2018 9:19:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers

I’ve never seen the whiny, wimpy combat soldiers you speak of, but some fat, bowlegged, butched-up, old rug munchers claim to have seen them.


48 posted on 06/10/2018 11:49:20 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Responsibility2nd

My thoughts are along the same lines as your posting.

Liberal issues promoted by media, schools and various governments has seemingly wimped males to the point that many are too fragile to witness or participate in killing people trying to kill them.


49 posted on 06/11/2018 1:21:44 AM PDT by octex
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To: Yaelle

/Apparently he loved being a soldier and only stopped when he became a target for his fellow servicemen.

Yes. But then they figured out a way for him to stay in the military by flying helicopters. Not as much of a target. He has taken up a great cause by taking up veterans’ interests.


50 posted on 06/11/2018 6:22:42 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: familyop

If you haven’t met any vets who think the country owes them, or who try to play the system to get benefits, YOU aren’t looking!

“but some fat, bowlegged, butched-up, old rug munchers claim to have seen them”

You need to get out of your parent’s basement. Maybe then you would see enough to know there is a lot of FRAUD going on, both in civilian disability programs and in programs for vets.

Hell, I met a number of “whiny, wimpy combat soldiers” while I was on active duty. People who regretted joining, went because the alternative was court-martial, did the least possible with the greatest resentment possible, and then became “Mr Super Soldier” after getting out!


51 posted on 06/11/2018 6:27:25 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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/Iraq & Afghanistan vets have great college benefits. The schools know and want the money. They are NOT being pushed “out of colleges, universities, jobs and families”!

Thank you. I was a professor and now work in university admin. We have great respect for our veterans, have special programs for them, and look to bring their experiences into the classroom when possible.

I did my PhD out in very liberal Seattle right after 9/11 and the run up to the war. Even out there, veterans were respected.

My late husband was a VN combat vet. I can assure folks, it was a lot worse for vets back then then it is now.


52 posted on 06/11/2018 6:30:53 AM PDT by radiohead
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"You need to get out of your parent’s basement."

My parents died from old age. Your false accusations show us where you're coming from, missy.

A few months ago, I talked to a man, who by his age, would have been drafted around '69 or '70. I know for a fact that he was in the service. He said that he had "PTSD" and obviously hated other veterans. He said that he was a mechanic who was forced to go to Ranger school and become a door gunner. [Buzz--wrong! No one forced to go to Ranger school. And long before then, the Army started taking door gunners from volunteers in infantry.] He said that he "killed a lot of people." ["People," implying civilians? Not too many civilians around patrols.] He said that the Army turned him into an alcoholic and made him cruel to his wife upon returning. [Buzz--wrong again.] The old lefty hens at his lefty church like him, but I also know for a fact that he wasn't in a combat MOS.

I've known and trained with many men who were trained mainly to go on patrols and many who did patrols. There were many who did patrols in the '60s and others who did patrols in wars since then. Not one of them was a red diaper doper baby like those who falsely accuse them.

The colleges and universities are notorious cesspools of social disease. That's been common knowledge for decades.


53 posted on 06/11/2018 7:58:39 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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"Maybe then you would see enough to know there is a lot of FRAUD going on, both in civilian disability programs and in programs for vets."

Big difference in the kinds of fraud committed in each of those programs. Most of the ill gotten funds in veterans programs go into the accounts of lifelong, professional civilians. Most of the ill gotten funds in civilian programs go into the accounts of extremely obese drug addicts, and their psychologists and psychiatrists facilitate that.


54 posted on 06/11/2018 8:08:30 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

“Most of the ill gotten funds in veterans programs go into the accounts of lifelong, professional civilians.”

Disagree. I can think of 3 Iraq War vets who I believe are committing fraud. However, I’m not 100% certain. All 3 have “PTSD” and get money from the government. 2 of the 3 claim physical disability too - although I’ve noticed they have no trouble riding dirt bikes. They also claim to have severe memory problems, so it is hard to remember how to go to work - but they seem to find there way while having fun on dirt bikes.

Of the three, one saw genuine, serious combat. Even if he is faking it, to his credit, he saw very heavy fighting, close up. The other two have been shot at fewer times than I was. The first I’ll give a pass to. He saw enough rough action that I don’t feel I have a right to criticize. The other two? If I had better proof, I’d turn them in.

But of course, they have doctors who say their stress was too much for them. I just don’t see anything in their service that was any more stressful than my own. Less, actually.

There ARE people who have been horribly harmed by combat time. But there are also liars enjoying their paycheck from Uncle Sam.


55 posted on 06/11/2018 9:21:44 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers
To borrow a metaphor from the slaughtered sacred cow of feminism, this is the root of the problem. ;-)

Dangerous People Are Teaching Your Kids
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3662245/posts


56 posted on 06/12/2018 12:42:23 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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