Posted on 06/10/2018 3:21:25 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
Take the red pill, lifer. You know that we’re not seeing nearly enough of them teaching in high schools or as paid journalists for major news publications. You know that instructors who are members of N.O.W., for one example, will push them out whenever they can. Hell, it is common knowledge, that most of the people in our universities are suffering from penis envy. I saw police departments that couldn’t stand prior enlisted combat or MP servicemen and pushed them out left and right with false or trivial accusations.
If vets want to go to college, they can. And if they melt before the NOW or liberals, that’s their own problem! The uncle who landed on Omaha Beach sure wouldn’t feel bad for them!
My instructor for my CCW class was an Afghanistan vet. He said that the VA tried their best to have him apply for PTSD treatment (though he had NO problems). He was astute enough to foresee the long term consequences of doing so, such as not being considered mentally able to handle firearms, maybe being on no-fly lists, etc. He said that lots of vets take the VA up on the offer of the PTSD treatment to get a monthly stipend. He told them Thanks, but No Thanks!
I agree with you about pity and am not promoting that. But if people in business, academia or government are allowed to shunt or denigrate prior servicemen without any good reason,... Well, only those who pay attention see the beginnings of the consequences so far.
One of two things in general will happen. There will be a debt collapse, and the un-American political class will be discarded. Or the un-American political class will be replaced in a growing paradigm of real production and be discarded.
With the challenges headed our way, great increases in production on U.S. soil will be required. There will be no room for unhealthy social politics.
I know a young combat engineer who had a head injury and back injury in Afghanistan (improvised explosive device on a road). The back gives him trouble, but he’s sane and smart. They told him that the head injury *is* PTSD and reportedly put it on his record.
Many of the lobbies behind the anti-Second-Amendment push are lobbies associated with the medical and psych. field. It originates in colleges, universities, and from administrators (managers) and investors.
“Well, look what we have here: a buddy****er. That’s a false characterization of fighting men who were cheated by your comrades and took it in stride.”
If someone can’t deal with liberals in college, or in the workplace, then they aren’t very tough guys. EVERYONE faces those challenges if they are even slightly conservative. But not everyone whines, says life is unfair, they cannot make it, etc. MOST conservatives just go on with life - as my uncles did, as I have done, as my kids have done.
Meanwhile, I’ve watched able-bodied men claim to be disabled. I’ve watched people who saw less fighting than I did claim PTSD and want handouts.
There IS real disability. Those truly disabled deserve the shirt off my back! But too many recent vets wore their uniforms in airports, hoping to be thanked. Or claim problems that are almost impossible to verify, and want handouts. That is real too.
I’ve never seen the whiny, wimpy combat soldiers you speak of, but some fat, bowlegged, butched-up, old rug munchers claim to have seen them.
My thoughts are along the same lines as your posting.
Liberal issues promoted by media, schools and various governments has seemingly wimped males to the point that many are too fragile to witness or participate in killing people trying to kill them.
/Apparently he loved being a soldier and only stopped when he became a target for his fellow servicemen.
Yes. But then they figured out a way for him to stay in the military by flying helicopters. Not as much of a target. He has taken up a great cause by taking up veterans’ interests.
If you haven’t met any vets who think the country owes them, or who try to play the system to get benefits, YOU aren’t looking!
“but some fat, bowlegged, butched-up, old rug munchers claim to have seen them”
You need to get out of your parent’s basement. Maybe then you would see enough to know there is a lot of FRAUD going on, both in civilian disability programs and in programs for vets.
Hell, I met a number of “whiny, wimpy combat soldiers” while I was on active duty. People who regretted joining, went because the alternative was court-martial, did the least possible with the greatest resentment possible, and then became “Mr Super Soldier” after getting out!
/Iraq & Afghanistan vets have great college benefits. The schools know and want the money. They are NOT being pushed out of colleges, universities, jobs and families!
Thank you. I was a professor and now work in university admin. We have great respect for our veterans, have special programs for them, and look to bring their experiences into the classroom when possible.
I did my PhD out in very liberal Seattle right after 9/11 and the run up to the war. Even out there, veterans were respected.
My late husband was a VN combat vet. I can assure folks, it was a lot worse for vets back then then it is now.
“Most of the ill gotten funds in veterans programs go into the accounts of lifelong, professional civilians.”
Disagree. I can think of 3 Iraq War vets who I believe are committing fraud. However, I’m not 100% certain. All 3 have “PTSD” and get money from the government. 2 of the 3 claim physical disability too - although I’ve noticed they have no trouble riding dirt bikes. They also claim to have severe memory problems, so it is hard to remember how to go to work - but they seem to find there way while having fun on dirt bikes.
Of the three, one saw genuine, serious combat. Even if he is faking it, to his credit, he saw very heavy fighting, close up. The other two have been shot at fewer times than I was. The first I’ll give a pass to. He saw enough rough action that I don’t feel I have a right to criticize. The other two? If I had better proof, I’d turn them in.
But of course, they have doctors who say their stress was too much for them. I just don’t see anything in their service that was any more stressful than my own. Less, actually.
There ARE people who have been horribly harmed by combat time. But there are also liars enjoying their paycheck from Uncle Sam.
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