Posted on 06/10/2018 12:20:04 PM PDT by fwdude
I dunno… sounds like you are making an extrapolation for which you are asking me to spend a bunch of time to do research to support your position which is based on vague references. I thought it sounded like you had some specific details right at your fingertips…. doesn’t sound like it.
Even if I concede that this piece was about the broader definition of ‘soap’ as opposed to ‘liquid soap’ (which it wasn’t), I suspect that there is basically nothing there to find. Were there some wealthy or royalty trying to use something? Perhaps but this certainly wasn’t the norm… just soaking and using hot water was the norm. For some locations, they might have used ashes, sand, vinegar and for some reason, I seem to recall some clever ways they tied horsehair together for scrubbing purposes… and then they likely washed them with hot water.
So, for him, it was six utensils, using a fresh napkin each time, that's 18 napkins before he even took a bite, and had need for one.
“I wash and rinse my dishes before I put them in the Dishwasher.”
I myself put them in cabinets until I use them again.
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Why? Waste of water and time.
Not everything is dishwasher safe.
What I’m getting from all these comments is that rinsing is a good idea, but that perhaps I’m OVER rinsing. My purpose in posting this is to find out how much rinsing is required, and whether I can get by with less thorough rinsing so as to save water and time.
I’ve been rinsing with cold in the interest of energy conservation but will now go back to hot. I know the dishes dry in a fraction of the time with heated dishes in the drying rack.
Still cannot stomach the idea of not rinsing soapy water off.
Here is more, in the book "American Housewife" from the early 1800's there was a admonition NOT to use soap to scrub your good china. If people are not doing something there is no reason to tell them to stop it.
Now your contention that liquid soap is some kind of new invention is, once again, just plain wrong. The first soap was in liquid form, that was why they kept it in jars. It was only later that we learned how to make solid soap.
Wow -- sounds like Jonathan Swift's descent into severe OCD or dementia. Just goes to show how important it is to accept people warts and all, because in spite of their quirks, many have much to offer mankind.
I am told that most of the work is done by the dishwasher soap. The water if filtered to meet EPA requirements.
I use the bottom rack of an old dishwasher. Works so well!!
I overrinse. With hot, hot water. with just the two of us here most of the time it takes a week to fill the dishwasher, so I use it as a draining-drying rack most of the time.
Millions and millions of people risked everything, even their lives, to cross the stormy seas to reach America and the New World …
… to escape the horrors of European food and hygiene.
lol!!! No doubt.
In the Scouts we teach a 3 basin wash:
1 basin for rinse water
1 basin for wash water (bleach)
1 basin for rinse water
Air dry, no towels.
What about hand wash and put in the DW for the dry cycle only?
I hardly ever use bleach since it kills the septic system I have.
Yep. Rinse water is hot, same as wash water.
That would be good IMO. I do not have a dishwasher so doing dishes by hand is the only option.
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