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To: Disestablishmentarian
-- You could argue that a person born to American parents outside the U.S. is a citizen, but not a natural born citizen. --

That is exactly what the law is. Congress can make anybody a citizen, Congress has the power of naturalization. There are naturalization statutes that operate more or less automatically, likely in your case, parents citizens, you born off the soil. Parents petition for your citizenship before you are able to speak, and you get it - by operation of a statute. You are naturalized in the legal sense, without personally going through a naturalization process or ceremony.

If it wasn't for the statute, you'd be an alien.

If it takes a statute to make you a citizen, you aren't a natural citizen.

If both your patents are citizens, and you are born on the soil - no question. Any other circumstance (and there are many possibilities here), there is a question.

-- in Obama's case, I'm saying if he was born outside the U.S. he was not even a citizen. --

Agreed.

913 posted on 05/20/2018 7:55:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Cboldt, I think we are in violent agreement.


915 posted on 05/20/2018 7:57:43 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (Read "American Betrayal" by Diana West)
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To: Cboldt

WIAHHDYKTTEPWDHAC

I know you are trying but why?


918 posted on 05/20/2018 7:59:45 PM PDT by No_Doll_i
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To: Cboldt

Ditto agreed. That’s the way it is.


939 posted on 05/20/2018 8:14:55 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Tag, you're it.)
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To: Cboldt

See my post above for the results of the study I did on natural born citizenship back in the day with the help of a woman who had been the law librarian for the US Supreme Court. She also was the Law Librarian for the Ninth Circuit and had been President of the National Law Librarian Association. She’d founded the Federal School of the Judiciary . . . which is where all newly appointed Federal Judges and Justices go to take courses to learn the procedures of the Federal bench before they take the positions. My ex-wife and I used to play Bridge with her and her husband before she died in a tragic accident.


1,060 posted on 05/21/2018 1:40:25 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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