I think you may have just discovered....
WHATS IN THE BOX?????
Your logic is impeccable.
Bagster
Corsi tries to get a plausible explanation and summary, but he’snot always up to date or on mark. Also, Q says to beware, be careful who you follow as many are in it for the money. Corsi is plugging a book.
Corsi does have an interesting background including his family and his family connections. I like to listen to him discuss history, especially things along the line of Operation Paperclip. He had a ringside seat to it when he was young because of his parent’s connections. What turns me off from Corsi is that when he discusses Q drops, he goes on and on and on before he gets to explaining Q’s drops and often it can be a letdown. But on occasion, he has some good insight, but one never knows and one has to listen a long time to see if anything worthwhile comes of his analysis. So it can be a waste of time.
As for the airliner photos, the pallets, the Apple store in China, the contents placed on the pallets, the external events happening contemporaneously, I have found the best explanations put forth by some quite capable anons.
The ring building was to identify Apple. That particular building may or may not have some significance. The Jet Blue airliner was to identify a flight presumably from the Bay area, maybe Oakland or SFO, not sure it’s important.
Flight to China is implied by the Apple Store in HK which keeps the top security products and equipment. This particular store is said to be one that has all the latest security products and the people in it are well-versed in computer security. This store is referred to as the ‘Apple Security Headquarters’ in China, HK SAR. This security attribute may be significant.
Then there is the picture of the pallets. There is something noticed on the pallets that Anons picked up and it is significant. But first I need to describe some contextual material. But note in passing that the shipping container containing the pallets is the back of a refrigerated freight truck. Now the context:
1. “Apple’s decision to let China hold the keys to the iCloud”, is this a threat to National Security?
2. A Reuters story broke in Feb 2018 San Francisco/Beijing “Apple moves to store iCloud Keys in China, raising human rights fears”; what does this mean for the United States? Why would Apple o this? Answer: access to China’s markets. The Chinese want to prohibit or spy behind any VPNs that people create for privacy. The deal is that Apple gets high profits via further penetration into China’s markets; the iPhone X was a flop in the US, but the Chinese love them. Chinese government will subsidize iPhone sales if Apple gives them the spying capability on their own people. But can they spy on others as well? Now Apple had a blowout quarter in sales just recently.
3. President’s twitter account shows a significant tweet ten minutes before the first Q image “Our great financial team is in China trying to negotiate a level playing field on trade! I look forward to being with President Xi in the not too distant future. We will always have a good (great) relationship!”, 5/2/2018 10:45 pm.
4. The President preceded this tweet with “Looking forward to my meeting with Tim Cook of Apple. We will be talking about many things, including how the US has been treated unfairly for many years, by many countries, on trade”, 4/25/2018.
5. Now back to item 1 above on this list. How would one move the ‘keys’ to the iCloud to China? It is moved by server equipment. On the photo showing the pallets, an observation is made that the company name on the pallets if CHEP which is a known maker of very high-quality pallets for transporting technology and electronic equipment. The company CHEP was formed from the military for military services. They are a big provider of military-grade pallets.
6. The pallets have foam in between and numerous special straps which are said to be used only for air travel. The truck is refrigerated by noticing the slats on the floor.
SO FAR THERE ARE HIGH-QUALITY FOAM SEPARATED PALLETS IN A REFRIGERATED TRUCK THAT ARE VERY WELL WRAPPED FOR ROAD AND AIR TRAVEL.
THE CONTENTS ARE INFERRED TO BE THE COMPONENTS NECESSARY TO GIVE THE CHINESE ACCESS TO THE ICLOUD.
7. What are the implications of the inference? By giving the keys, meaning giving access to China to the Apple iCloud, allows the Chinese unfettered access to the information, to all databases associated with Apple and Apple products.
WHO IS THE BIGGEST THIEF OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (IP) IN THE WORLD? CHINA.
8. China is engaged in economic warfare with the US; IP theft, Currency manipulation, and many other things. China has a problem with the rule of law more so than any other nation, especially from a so-called trade partner.
9. Apple sales up to $61 BILLION, Profit $14 BILLION for the quarter. Ok, this next statement will make some orgasmic Apple lovers mad, but they should wait for the ‘rest of the story’ before flaring up.
APPLE SOLD THE KEYS TO THE ICLOUD TO CHINA FOR PROFIT!
10. President Trump is not stupid. He would never allow Apple to sell out the US. So look at his Tweet above, he met with Tim Cook to discuss mant things. What did they discuss?
IS APPLE SMART ENOUGH, PATRIOTIC ENOUGH TO SET A TRAP FOR THE PRC CHINESE?
I note that when one is engaged in cyber warfare, it calls for the art of deception. Who has the upper hand here? My bet is Apple’s ‘keys’ are trap doors for the Chinese leading to smoke and mirrors when a battle plan calls.
The goal is to make the Chinese think they have obtained critical information when in fact the information is designed to fool them. General George Washington did this, seriously.
My take is that President Trump agreed with Tim Cook to a plan that gives the US the upper hand while landing Apple hue profits.
An add-on note. The President warned about China, spying, and iPhones.
This is likely a bluff. The President does not want the Chinese to know that Tim Cook just delivered equipment that allows the US to watch and control what the Chinese think they are breaking into and stealing <— my take
I think you may have just discovered....
WHATS IN THE BOX?????
Your logic is impeccable.
Bagster
If so, it would not be alluded to on a Q post. It would be one of our most guarded secrets. I'm not on the list of those with a need to know.
I love your theory on the Apple iCloud. Hope you're right.
And it seems that DJT just created another branch of military when Rogers retired today. It includes Cyber security. How does it fit into this Apple/cloud deal?
If the need was there for that position he certainly wouldn’t purposely weaken our stance before it’s establishment Is cloud gonna make it rain in the near future ?
Wow! Very well done. Thanks.
The goal is to make the Chinese think they have obtained critical information when in fact the information is designed to fool them. General George Washington did this, seriously.
My take is that President Trump agreed with Tim Cook to a plan that gives the US the upper hand while landing Apple hue profits.
Trump is the quintessential stingmaster.
No, the anons have it completely WRONG again. Hong Kong is still technically NOT part of China for economic trade. China, although in possession of Hong Kong, requires internal passports to travel to and from Hong Kong, and also internal customs. The Apple Hong Kong store is NOT "Apple Security Headquarters" in China because it is NOT in China. This is some Anon's pipe-dream. Ergo, it has little to no significance.
Apple has management headquarters for China in major cities actually IN China where their products ARE assembled, not in Hong Kong, where they merely retail their products.
There is NO NEED to ship any Apple products to China, except the Apple Mac Pro and certain models of iMac, because most Apple products are assembled IN China, just a short plane ride from Hong Kong. It makes ZERO sense to ship to the US and then back to Hong Kong.
1. “Apple’s decision to let China hold the keys to the iCloud”, is this a threat to National Security?
Sigh. Apple is NOT letting China hold all the keys to the iCloud. That is a complete mischaracterization of what occurred.
"Sensitive to the political climate, Apple last year said its Chinese servers do not include backdoors and that it (Apple) would be in control of iCloud keys, not GCBD. That might not matter, however, as those keys will be subject to the Chinese legal system . . . "—"Apple to move Chinese iCloud keys to China servers, opens door to government data requests—AppleInsider—February 24, 2018.
2. A Reuters story broke in Feb 2018 San Francisco/Beijing “Apple moves to store iCloud Keys in China, raising human rights fears”; what does this mean for the United States? Why would Apple o this? Answer: access to China’s markets. The Chinese want to prohibit or spy behind any VPNs that people create for privacy. The deal is that Apple gets high profits via further penetration into China’s markets; the iPhone X was a flop in the US, but the Chinese love them. Chinese government will subsidize iPhone sales if Apple gives them the spying capability on their own people. But can they spy on others as well? Now Apple had a blowout quarter in sales just recently.
That implied claim that Apple moved all iCloud keys to China is a complete fabrication of the anti-Apple Mainstream Press. . . as is the claim that Apple's iPhone X is a "flop." The iPhone X was the number one selling phone model in the US as well as in China and many other areas of the world. 82% of teens are using iPhones and 84% intend to buy one.
The claim that Apple sold out the iCloud keys to gain new market in China is also a lie. Apple ALREADY HAD complete access to China's markets. There was no need to get "further penetration into China’s markets" when Apple already had it. That is a completely ridiculous claim. This Key idiocy came up in February but the Apple iPhone X had already become the number one selling phone in China in the last quarter of 2017, long before the key issue.
Flop? Apple just turned in the best 1st calendar quarter of any company in BUSINESS HISTORY. . . and that included the best sales of iPhones in the US, of which the iPhone X was the best seller. It also was the best selling phone in China, Japan, the UK, and Europe. . . even though it had a starting price of $999. Why? Because it's not really a phone but a pocket computer that has a phone attached. As I pointed out, the X was already the best selling phone in China BEFORE this idiotic Key thing was ever brought up.
Apple is merely OBEYING THE LAW AS WRITTEN IN CHINA, which was PASSED at the end of 2016!
"In a statement, Apple said it had to comply with recently introduced Chinese laws that require cloud services offered to Chinese citizens be operated by Chinese companies and that the data be stored in China. It said that while the company’s values don’t change in different parts of the world, it is subject to each country’s laws.
“While we advocated against iCloud being subject to these laws, we were ultimately unsuccessful,” it said. Apple said it decided it was better to offer iCloud under the new system because discontinuing it would lead to a bad user experience and actually lead to less data privacy and security for its Chinese customers.—"Apple moves to store iCloud keys in China, raising human rights fears"—Reuters—February 23, 2018
SHEESH!
5. Now back to item 1 above on this list. How would one move the ‘keys’ to the iCloud to China? It is moved by server equipment. On the photo showing the pallets, an observation is made that the company name on the pallets if CHEP which is a known maker of very high-quality pallets for transporting technology and electronic equipment. The company CHEP was formed from the military for military services. They are a big provider of military-grade pallets.
ROTFLMAO!
No, Hostage. One would NOT move the encryption keys, actually the Chinese iCloud encryption KEYS, by moving a server. It certainly would not require a pallet to move it or them, assuming that Apple might have more than one key for China's iCloud.
One can carry the encryption keys in one's pocket on a FLASH drive. Apple uses 256 bit Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) for the iCloud storage. It requires a complex key. Here is a sample of such an encryption key with a smaller number of bits:
5f4dcc3b5aa765d61d8327deb882cf99
Obviously, one would not want to send it by email to China, but one could hand carry it written down on an Irish lottery ticket and just happen to drop to an Apple employee in a Chinese restaurant. There, delivered. See? No server or pallet required. . . but Key delivered.
Or, you can send it in the clear by merely breaking it into pieces and posting the pieces in places only you and your recipient know where to look for them. . . and in which order to reconstruct the pieces. Say, on facebook kitten photos. The keys still get transmitted.
APPLE SOLD THE KEYS TO THE ICLOUD TO CHINA FOR PROFIT!
You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. Hostage.
I again ask you do you know anything at all about Sarbanes Oxley Act of 2002 and the draconian penalties and fines that redound against officers and managers who would DO what you just described? Try $20 million in personal fines and 20 years in prison. . . but you've built your house of cards on something that simply DID NOT HAPPEN!
An international business such as Apple is REQUIRED to obey the laws of the nations in which they do business. That is what Apple is doing. They did not hand over the keys to even the Chinese iCloud to the Chinese government. What Apple did do was to follow Chinese national law and bring the keys to the Chinese iCloud, and only the Chinese Users' iCloud, within the borders and jurisdiction of the Chinese legal system. That is ALL that happened. . . and it was under the requirements of the Chinese law. Nobody sold out anyone. Further, Chinese customers' data was only shifted over to the Chinese servers when they agreed to the new user agreement. It is reported that 99.9% of Chinese Apple users have done so (of course, it IS China).
EVERY Smartphone manufacturer who provides such services in China had to do the SAME EXACT THING AS APPLE.
Microsoft gave the Chinese government the entire source code to Windows and Microsoft Office. Apple refused to give them the source code to OSX and iOS. How does THAT strike you?
Trump and Apple are working together on something. I have not a clue what.