Posted on 05/03/2018 3:25:54 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch
teachers in my day were in it because to a Catholic school student it was considered a "vocation"...something you devote your life and being a good person...
now, its just a govt job..period...
I can count on one hand the number of people who I consider really loved their jobs, loved the kids, and never wanted to quit...actually, its probably only one person, sadly not my own sister, who skedaddled as soon as she could...
the two best math teachers in my whole life were older nuns....they didn’t take any crap and they knew their stuff....
a pharmacist I know talked about being in college and while they were in class and taking labs the education majors were partying....nothing like easy classes to get you a nice govt job...
They aren’t paid for 12 months. Those that draw checks for 12 months have deferred their salary. So the article starts with a lie, and is crap from there on out.
The salaries are less of a problem than the pensions and health bennies.
No, they make self-protective rules because parents sue the schools for anything that hurts their child’s feelings.
Far more teachers than bureaucrats. In any case, it’s the pensions and bennies for all of them.
One of my kids is a teacher as well. His experience is that he transferred into a state where he was not originally certified right at the time of a Republican takeover. HIs salary was locked down for most of the last ten years, his pension partial vesting took ten years, his insurance was high and he paid for it and he will probably never again vote R.
Yes it is true that he came into the state where teachers had politically abused their power. But is rectifying that, newer teachers were overly penalized because the older teachers already had their benefits locked in.
He is a dedicated professional recognized repeatedly as a top teacher by districts, students and peers.
Ah! Good point.
They’ve had tests since schools began but these tests the students are forced to take & the teachers are forced to teach are a farce. Just like Obamacare had nothing to healthcare these tests have nothing to do with education. I believe they actually detract from teaching & learning. There are many reasons for our low performing educational system, but I believe the biggest reason and one that effects society as a whole is that over half the kids in school only have one parent at home.
‘End mandatory schooling at eighth grade, and everything will get better, instantly.’
interesting suggestion, but if we don’t like seeing teachers hitting the streets now, imagine what would happen with all the layoffs necessitated by the reduced student body...
‘My wife worked in education 30 years and her SHORTEST contract was 215 work days, not 180. Some years, she worked a 255 day contract.’
hmmm...standard instructional time by year in Texas is 180 days, as cited by the Education Commission of the States, or 900 hours per year in order to qualify as an instructional day. or 5 hours p/day...the above are minimums, perhaps some teachers are contracted to work more, but your post attempts to make it appear that 200 plus work days are standard across the board, which in fact, they are not...
‘Many teachers just want to get through the year with a functional liver, not be physically assaulted, and no lawsuits.’
so why are they out on the streets complaining about pay and benefits, instead of the issues you listed...? the walking off the job is entire reason this screed was written...
‘The system doesn’t allow for any discipline.’
if I were to grant any leeway to teachers (and I would rather pull out my own teeth, if I had any left), this is where it would be; they need to be backed by the administration...any damn student who wishes to disrupt the learning experience, he/she needs to be sent directly to the office, where a drill instructor type can deal with them...my high school had a vice-principal who looked like he walked right out of The Godfather, and had a stare that could kill...
‘They aren’t paid for 12 months.’
his point is they are making a 12 month salary for a 9 month work year...should be able to read between the lines...
And that’s a lie. They’re paid for 9 months. They’re not paid for a year. There’s no between the lines. There’s the truth and there’s lies, and anybody saying teachers are making 12 months of salaries is lying.
Yes, and the only thing I ever objected to was the Hollywood perspective that teachers were these persecuted underpaid victims. I think the truth is in the middle somewhere. And I think what many hear about are teachers mid or far into their careers in very liberal states like New York where they have the rubber rooms.
I live in British Columbia and my issue is more with the teacher unions. They hate the private schools and would love to see them defunded. Our kids go to private school so I don’t appreciate that. :).
But yes I learned many things since she started teaching:
1) While teachers after 10 years make good money, starting pay is pretty pathetic
2) The annual pay is a salary that must last the entire year. So as a sub, she was, sure getting decent pay, but we had a 2 week spring break. That is 2 weeks with NO pay. The summer will be 9 weeks with no pay.
3) There are crappy teachers, sure, but good teachers, spend plenty of time prepping and marking.
FWIW, I don’t know where my wife will end up. Full time public system jobs are hard to get, as in our district, we have plenty of teachers with 25 to 42 years of seniority. She may end up in the private system, where the pay doesn’t even come close to public school, but she would probably be happier.
That would be terribly foolish. You would end up with many more people who couldn’t balance their own checkbook, couldn’t get a job with even the military, and more voters who have no basis for making good decisions. It is already bad enough as it is.
I would not let anyone who did not graduate from a legitimate high school vote.
Next question.
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