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To: Swordmaker
Sorry, stooge, I am not buying the pancake meme. I believe the building mass was dustified, for the most part, before it reached street level. Had the mass of two 500,000 tonne buildings crashed down inside the dyke system holding the Hudson River out of the complex, that dyke would have failed, floading the lower end of Manhattan Island via the tunnel system which ran under the site.

Your little education game might convince some that you are sincere, but it merely exposes your desperation to support your false, CIA generated explanation. Remember how CIA tried to convince us that what was seen by the witnesses in the 800 case was not what what they saw? IIRC, Louie Free debunked that crap stream.

As to your pyroclastic cloud, ask the folks who walked out of it or were propelled a block backwards by it if they were singed. LOL, you're so exposed now!

Amd lastly, son, your assertions by inference:

Incidentally, if the 104 floors did not "pancake," MHGinTN, what DID THEY DO? Fly off into the sky? [As a matter of video evidence, yes they did. The dust cloud rose nearly to the Jetstream, IIRC. Satellite imagery was interesting that day. And the lack of a seismic registry was also interesting. Want to 'educate us in your knowledge of seismic waves now?] This is the conundrum for those who claim something else was done. . . especially those who claim there isn't enough material in the crater to account for the building, like Dr. Wood. What's the ad hoc explanation of the day? [Crater? LOL, the debris didn't even make it down to the third level below street level under the towers! The lights remained on in the subway terminals![

Focus upon someone else to spittle your deceit, son, I'm bored with exposing you. Or, just enjoy your boasting, doesn't matter really. I doubt you're paid by the hour.

2,030 posted on 05/06/2018 1:53:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Sorry, stooge, I am not buying the pancake meme. I believe the building mass was dustified, for the most part, before it reached street level. Had the mass of two 500,000 tonne buildings crashed down inside the dyke system holding the Hudson River out of the complex, that dyke would have failed, floading the lower end of Manhattan Island via the tunnel system which ran under the site.

Look, idiot, if you're going to continue with the insults, I might as well join you.

What force DUSTIFIED the floors? What force could do that? I have not disagreed with you on that. In fact, you and I may not be too far apart. Think about it. My view is that only the first few floors ever "pancaked." After that, the falling debris was to great to allow such an event to occur. The FORCE of the floors coming down is MONUMENTAL and it is that with compressed gas, turning into a plasma which in many ways actually has the HEAT to turn steel and concrete into dust. Each floor has to be sequentially destroyed as this HUGE mass reaches it. There is essentially a wave front that has the immediately next floor as a quasi-flat leading face that actually destroys each successive floor. We are, as you put it, talking a 500,000 tonne building and watching it successively come down, and as each floor comes down one more floor, the mass impinging on each floor is just that much greater and thus the destructive FORCE is also that much greater.

So, MHGinTN. . . I shall withdraw my "Idiot" as I think we are actually in agreement. I never said that the floors wound up at the bottom as I never thought that was so. I too think the forces destroyed the material on the way down and spread it over the city. . . but I think you've made an assumption that's what I meant that there would be a flapjack pile at the bottom. I knew that never happened. Just as you assumed I said there was no steel in the central column. I also know that Dr. Wood knows that pancake pile never happened.

I think as this mass of floor debris falls on each successive floor, the air in the next floor down is compressed, which according to Boyles Law causes it to become super heated, stripped of its electrons, and is turned into a plasma. This plasma is at several thousand degrees and incinerates everything to ash in seconds. The concrete floor spalls and shatters. . . as does the central core column as the superheated plasma erodes and spalls the concrete, the plasma/superheated air blasts through the elevator doors to join the already hot air at high pressure in the shafts (see Boyles law) and shatters the column at that level.

That floor falls, adding its SOME of its mass to the already stupendous mass that destroyed it, while SOME blasts out as huge amounts of hot dust and particulates and hot ash and even hotter smoke through the destroyed curtain wall/windows, some to blast away from the building and fall, some to rise into the air.

On to the next floor. All of this occurs on each floor in a fraction of a second.

Rinse, repeat, Each time the force is GREATER and more is expelled out the sides because there is MORE pressure and therefore more force to push the particulates and dust away under tremendous plasma and air pressure. (Remember the lightning — Like charges repel, more force spreads the dust and ash.) By the time the last floor is pulverized, there's not much left to drop into the crater. Mechanical forces and gravity have destroyed it all.

So, MHGinTN. . . can we agree we had a misunderstanding?

2,037 posted on 05/06/2018 2:40:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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