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To: Swordmaker

I concede to your considerable knowledge of that day. But you can’t make me believe that it wasn’t a FF!


1,599 posted on 05/04/2018 7:12:47 PM PDT by Mytruevine
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To: Mytruevine
Who are ya’, really? First you think it’s a missil and not a plane. Now, maybe it’s a plane , but it was a false flag? FR needs a fortune telling thread and horoscopes and crystal balls. 🔮
1,608 posted on 05/04/2018 7:19:28 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Ed/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming, infini)
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To: Mytruevine

What’s an FF? Fuel Fire?


1,681 posted on 05/04/2018 7:59:06 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.zazzle.com/brain_truth for hats T's e.g. STAY CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING)
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To: Mytruevine
But you can’t make me believe that it wasn’t a FF!

The way things are today it probably was a FF, but three planes went into the WTC and Pentagon. Arguing against that is moronic.

1,731 posted on 05/04/2018 8:26:40 PM PDT by xone
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To: Mytruevine
I concede to your considerable knowledge of that day. But you can’t make me believe that it wasn’t a FF!

No, and I won’t try, because I’m not actually certain one way or the other, myself. I do think that President Bush was not privy to it. . . but it’s entirely possible deep state actors were. It’s possible they allowed it to happen at the very least.

Occam’s razor tells me that the forces of gravity and not controlled demolition brought down the buildings. I used to tutor in physics in college before I switched to economics. I can do the math. The skeptics hang their Tim foil hats on the melting temperature of steel, but what’s important was the softening point, where it bends. . . and how far it had to bend to pull out of the supporting cleets that connected the trusses that supported floors to the central column and to the girder wall. The other consideration is heat/pressure spalling of the concrete floors. The greatest percentage of the weight of each floor isn’t in the purlins, trusses, and girders, but in the ferroconcrete flooring of concrete and rebar. Add tremendous heat from the fuel plus the paper and wood load of desks and other combustible materials with open air feeds from the Holes made by the aircraft through the curtain wall, the temperature rises high enough to cause major spalling and large chunks of the upper floor concrete falls onto the next floor down, causing an overweight on that floor. If it collapses, the curtain wall goes, and it is the primary external girder support for all floors above the now collapsing floors. Those lose all external support and pull,out from internal support. A cascade immediately begins. Only fractions of a second of resistance on the first few upper floors can be accounted for but as more and more tons of added floors fall on each successive floor, there can be no appreciable resistance at all. The tower falls at near the speed of gravity. Cushioned only by the "hydraulic ram" of the volume of now superheated air being driven out of each successive floor as the ramming pile collapses. This is what shocked witnesses mistook for controlled demolition explosions.

On the other hand, I think that the Oklahoma Federal Murrah building was most likely a FF and that additional explosives were used there because the single truck bomb is insufficient to account for the evidence I saw in photographs of the building and the fact the knew which model of Ryder truck had been rent from finding the rear axle with the VIN but the ATF and FBI kept absurdly increasing the size of that truck to account for more and more barrels of fuel oil soaked ammonium nitrate (ANFO) needed to account for the size of the blast as they calculated more and more of the extent of the damage. They started with a sixteen foot box and by the time they finished it had grown to a 26’ box truck, the largest a person with a standard, non-commercial driver’s license can rent.

1,861 posted on 05/05/2018 12:45:10 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Mytruevine
Yup, the hijackers knew exactly where to hit the P-gon, to stop that audit looking for trillions missing from the budget monies.

And that twin towers thing? well of course the collapsing in almost free fall speed dustified the masses so they didn't rupture the dyke holding out the Hudson River from inundating lower Manhattan.

Be so thankful for the rainbow pills offered to you citizen ... or else be ridiculed for wanting truth.-

1,969 posted on 05/05/2018 5:50:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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