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To: FourtySeven

That’s because my main issue is that his position is overstated on both OS’s, but I didn’t state *wrong*. Any system is only as secure as the behavior of the user. I make sure I only download from the Android store, I check the security permissions of the application I’m about to install, I don’t side-load apps. An awful lot of threats involve actions by the user. NO SYSTEM IS *****EVER***** 100% secure, it’s just about what kind of REAL delta that we’re talking about.

It has been a very long time since I had any problems on either an Android phone (I’ve owned them for a long time) or a Windows machine, things are far from where they used to be and are greatly improved. I refuse to pay the ridiculous Apple prices. Good behavior goes a long way. Since Android Lollipop the use of SE-Linux, which defaults resource access to “denied” unless explicitly allowed, along with filesystem tamper detection mechanisms like “dm-verity” made the environment *much* better. The major Android phone makers (e.g. Samsung) do provide security updates. Apple has pushed out updates that did things people didn’t want or like. I like to be in control. New Android phones are far removed from where things used to be, while there’s an acceleration of attempts to hack iOS devices, which will find new exploits. As Android devices can be made cheaply, by crappy device makers, expect cheap support. I don’t buy those. Lumping all Android devices together is a mistake.

I’m a highly qualified software architect, I understand what not to do better than most - which also biases me toward the less expensive, with Apple you *always* pay a premium.

So the main point is, yes, Apple has a better track record but the gap has narrowed greatly and the rising bad statistics are on the iOS side. How much more do you want to pay for the one being *perceived* as better moving forward? ...because as of right now, a lot of it is perception, especially against quality Android devices. If you’re conscious of what you do, and what not to do, I wouldn’t worry (I don’t). Are you sure the Spectre and Meltdown fixes from Apple *truely* fix all the problems? I’ve seen these “fixes” go round and round, people are still unsure.


38 posted on 04/19/2018 4:36:35 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic; FourtySeven
I’m a highly qualified software architect, I understand what not to do better than most - which also biases me toward the less expensive, with Apple you *always* pay a premium.

Not necessarily true. Apple has brand new iPhones priced from the iPhone SE at $349.00 to the maxed out iPhone X at $1149.00 with steps at about $100 increments in-between. You buy a new phone in the Samsung Galaxy line and you will pay close to the same range. . . for slower processor phones that don't have as much of a full support ecosystem backing them up.

43 posted on 04/19/2018 8:56:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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