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Trump administration seeks to transfer unnamed enemy combatant within 72 hours
The Hill ^ | 4/17/18

Posted on 04/17/2018 3:33:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

The Trump administration intends to transfer a U.S. citizen held in Iraq as an enemy combatant for over six months to an unnamed foreign country within 72 hours, it revealed in a court filing on Tuesday afternoon.

The detainee has declined to consent to the transfer, according to the government, and a hearing has been set for Thursday morning.

The government did not name the country, but a U.S. official confirmed to The Hill that officials are seeking to transfer him to Saudi Arabia. The detainee, known publicly only as John Doe, also holds a citizenship there, The Hill has previously reported.

The federal disclosure came only under court order. In late December, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan had ordered that the government must provide Doe with 72 hour’s notice if were going to pursue such a transfer, in order to allow him to challenge the move in court — a restriction that the government has itself challenged.

Details of the transfer agreement remain unknown.

In its heavily-redacted filing, the Trump administration cited “extensive diplomatic discussions” regarding the transfer and urged the court not to delay it.

“Now that these intensive efforts have resulted in a commitment to transfer [redacted], it is imperative that the transfer occur quickly and smoothly,” an unnamed State Department official writes in an attached declaration.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 201712; 201804; 20180417; chutkan; detainees; dualcitizenship; enemycombatant; fusiongps; gitmo; iraq; johndoe; mysteryman; q; saudi; saudiarabia; tanyachutkan
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yes it does. The last updated version is 2014.


21 posted on 04/17/2018 7:31:55 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith
It does not require the relinquishment of citizenship.

Nor does the government require this in practice.

It is a pro-forma renounciation only.

Here it is:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

22 posted on 04/17/2018 7:38:37 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty of which I have heretofore been subject or citizen, that will support and defend the Constitutional law of the United States of America


23 posted on 04/17/2018 7:39:11 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

Would you underline the part that requires the relinquishment of citizenship please?


24 posted on 04/17/2018 7:40:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Deaf Smith
As a follow up, the law of the US changed in 1967 with the ruling in the Afroyim v. Rusk case.
Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967), is a major United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that citizens of the United States may not be deprived of their citizenship involuntarily.[1][2]

The U.S. government had attempted to revoke the citizenship of Beys Afroyim, a man born in Poland, because he had cast a vote in an Israeli election after becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen. The Supreme Court decided that Afroyim's right to retain his citizenship was guaranteed by the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. In so doing, the Court struck down a federal law mandating loss of U.S. citizenship for voting in a foreign election—thereby overruling one of its own precedents, Perez v. Brownell (1958), in which it had upheld loss of citizenship under similar circumstances less than a decade earlier.

The Afroyim decision opened the way for a wider acceptance of dual (or multiple) citizenship in United States law.[3]

The Bancroft Treaties—a series of agreements between the United States and other nations which had sought to limit dual citizenship following naturalization—were eventually abandoned after the Carter administration concluded that Afroyim and other Supreme Court decisions had rendered them unenforceable.


25 posted on 04/17/2018 7:47:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Pro forma: Used to describe accounting,financial, and other statements or conclusions based upon assumed or anticipated facts.

Black's Law Dictionary

26 posted on 04/17/2018 7:48:49 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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This is the sense I used the term:

The term pro forma is most often used to describe a practice or document that is provided as a courtesy or satisfies minimum requirements, conforms to a norm or doctrine, tends to be performed or is considered a formality.

27 posted on 04/17/2018 7:50:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

SCOTUS needs to revisit.


28 posted on 04/17/2018 7:51:41 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

It will take a Constitutional change or a Supreme Court to overrule itself...


29 posted on 04/17/2018 7:53:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Just finished the majority opinion by Justice J Black: Perez v Brownell reversed.

Requires Congress to act to which history shows they never will.

Appears that the Oath of Citizenship IS only a act of formality and not binding to the oath taker.

30 posted on 04/18/2018 6:33:12 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

I agree with you that it is doubtful.

I see a second passport as just a travel document or a plan b against corrupt gov’t.

I do think good people can disagree about this and other topics.

Blessings to you.


31 posted on 04/18/2018 6:37:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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