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Parents defend vigilantism against man under investigation for child luring
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/ ^ | 4/13/18 | Dario Balca ,

Posted on 04/16/2018 12:34:54 PM PDT by BBell

Warning: The details of this story and coarse language references may be disturbing to some readers.

Vancouver Island parents say they believe they were doing the right thing when they tackled and restrained a man they allege was in their Port Alberni home to have sex with their underage daughter.

RCMP officers responded to a call about a disturbance at a residence in the 3600-block of Bruce Street shortly before 12:30 p.m. Thursday.

Mounties arrived to find a 28-year-old man who's being investigated for child luring had been restrained "as a result of vigilante actions."

The incident was captured in a Facebook Live video moments after it happened.

"He come to my house to meet my 13-year-old f***ing daughter to f***k her. He wanted to be her first," the woman behind the camera can be heard saying. "We f***ing tackled him and zap strapped him and called the police."

In the video, a man can be seen face-down on the floor with his feet and hands bound behind his back.

When police arrived, they freed the man and took him to hospital. Mounties say he hasn't been charged.

In an interview with CTV News Friday, the mother, who is not being identified to protect the identity of her daughter, alleged she'd noticed explicit messages being sent to her daughter's Instagram account, which is controlled from her phone, about six weeks before the incident. She said she'd been trying to get the police involved since.

"They wouldn't even look at my phone. They just said to block him and forget it," she said. "I've been waiting for six weeks for the police to give me a name behind the Instagram account."

Desperate for a solution, she said she posed as her daughter and messaged the man to invite him to her home.

"I just didn't know what else to do," she said. "I knew that Friday's coming…and if it is who I thought it was, then he needed to be stopped."

The mother said she asked police to come to her home before the man arrived, hopeful that "they would go meet this guy and catch him so that I didn't have to do anything," but claimed authorities wouldn't help.

She said she confronted the man as he made his way to her daughter's room, punching him before the girl's stepfather and another man restrained him.

Police arrived after 15 or 20 minutes, the woman said Friday, and told the three people allegedly involved in restraining the man that they would be detained for assault.

The day after the incident, Mounties said those involved are being investigated for criminal offences including assault causing bodily harm and forcible confinement.

"I'm arrested because we caught a predator the police refused to catch," the woman says at the end of the video, turning the camera towards herself.

Police wouldn't comment on the footage, but Cpl. Amelia Hayden confirmed Friday that the woman had visited the local RCMP detachment and told authorities that the man was allegedly trying to visit her underage daughter.

"The police had directed her not to take matters into her own hands, that we were investigating it," Hayden said. "She was directed not to make the meet happen."

The corporal said the man who was restrained has been under investigation since March, but Thursday's events may have compromised police efforts.

"Vigilante actions like these are not only illegal and put people in danger, but they also have the potential to compromise the original investigation," Hayden said. "It hasn't resolved one issue—it's caused another and put people in danger, everybody."

The mother and stepfather said they're concerned about the potential charges against them, but that they were left with no choice.

"I'm kind of disgusted by the system myself, in that she went in begging for help yesterday," the stepfather said. "She's been asking for help from the police for the last six weeks for this and not really anything's happened. I didn't know what to do yesterday, right?"

The couple said they felt it was important to document the alleged incident on social media to inform other parents in the small community about an alleged predator.

"At least now, everybody that knows him…they can protect their own kids because they know what's going on," he said. "That's all that we wanted—was just to be able to protect the kids."

Hayden said the original child luring investigation is ongoing.


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KEYWORDS: childluring; citizensarrest; parents; vancouver; vigilantism
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To: BBell

Regardless, this story should be a harbinger for parents everywhere:

Monitor your child’s cell phone and social media accounts.


21 posted on 04/16/2018 1:13:05 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

I know.

I grew up near Detroit. We got Canadian TV which is CBC, the website of the article. It’s sort of second nature to me.

Windsor, Ontario, Canada (CA) is actually due south of Detroit. They had a powerhouse top 40 radio station that at one point was the highest rated station in Canada and several US markets across about 8 states.

Their CKLW 20/20 News was legendary for shocking and tight newscasts. I just listened to one of the old ones.

“Accommodations are getting tighter at the Wayne County Morgue as officials stare at those 16 new feet are sticking out of those cold rubber blankets.”

For real. It was a great time to be a kid.


22 posted on 04/16/2018 1:48:03 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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To: BBell
Child Lurer:


23 posted on 04/16/2018 2:07:09 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: BBell
There's a difference between detaining someone at the scene of an attempted crime, and "vigilantism". Of course, 99% of everyone loses any and all ability for rational thought when "child" and "sex" appear in the same sentence, and the actual valid topic will be instantly forgotten and utterly ignored.

They caught someone in the attempted commission of a felony. Letting this be labeled "vigilantism" opens the door for making it illegal for anyone but police to detain felons who are caught in the act.

24 posted on 04/16/2018 2:10:25 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: colorado tanker
So, it’s legal for a 28 year old to have sex with a 13 year old girl in B.C.? The police sure don’t seem to give a crap about it.

They didn't have sex. The only crime to prosecute now would be attempted child sex, but the parents may have fouled that up with their eagerness to bait the guy and earn their Virtue Signals.

25 posted on 04/16/2018 2:13:05 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: logi_cal869

Canada.

Mom posing to lure him is the colossal screw up, as it would be here.


26 posted on 04/16/2018 2:21:51 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: BBell
"S.S.S."

Maybe there should be a STJR (Slow Total Junk Removal) warm-up before the "SSS"...

27 posted on 04/16/2018 2:29:07 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: BBell

He’s lucky that’s all they did to him.


28 posted on 04/16/2018 2:48:16 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: logi_cal869

“Apparently no such thing as “citizens’ arrest” in CA.”.......

Vancouver Island is in Canada NOT Kalifornika.

Those parents will be lucky if they don’t get charge with assault and kidnapping having “zip tied” the victim, thus restraining him........until police arrived.


29 posted on 04/16/2018 3:12:18 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

I think the CA meant Canada.

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30 posted on 04/16/2018 3:14:21 PM PDT by Mears
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To: DaveA37

Another FReeper already pointed out that there probably isn’t much difference.

However, I looked it up before posting:

https://www.abbreviations.com/abbreviation/CANADA

Gimme 50.


31 posted on 04/16/2018 3:20:10 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: BBell

My guess is that someone in law enforcement was in the same pedo ring that the cops are protecting.


32 posted on 04/16/2018 3:31:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

hadn’t thought of that angle.


33 posted on 04/16/2018 3:34:12 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: ltc8k6

But the cops can set up those stings and put them on tv


34 posted on 04/16/2018 3:42:19 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: BBell
"I'm kind of disgusted by the system myself, in that she went in begging for help yesterday," the stepfather said. "She's been asking for help from the police for the last six weeks...

OK, so he's the stepfather because mom and dad got a divorce and mom wient off with this guy, who didn't adopt her, so she is a stepdaughter, not a real daughter. And "she" has been trying to get help, not "we." No wonder this kid is looking for an outside man to look out for her, not old enough to realize she will be out of the frying pan into the fire.

35 posted on 04/16/2018 7:28:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: allendale

Can you elaborate please?


36 posted on 04/17/2018 5:48:28 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Nifster

“But it’s ok if the cops do the same thing. She posed as a 13 yr old not as an adult. This guy should be thrown to the grisslies”

Yes, the police have the legal authority to set up stings and arrest people.

Private citizens are taking quite a risk trying that.

He might simply be able to say that he knew it was the mom inviting him over, for example. We don’t know exactly what went on in the texting or chatting, but it most likely wouldn’t hold up in court.

Plus, you are inviting a dangerous person to your house...


37 posted on 04/17/2018 9:04:23 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

Agreed

I am hoping the charges are dropped

As my previous post said I would not have saved this guy for the police. Body would never have been found


38 posted on 04/17/2018 9:50:01 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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