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The Hubble Space Telescope Just Captured An ‘Einstein Ring'
Tech Times ^ | 04/09/18 | Carl Velasco

Posted on 04/09/2018 7:06:43 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: rjsimmon
Distorting time? Impossible.

Have you ever tried it?

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21 posted on 04/09/2018 7:59:27 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rjsimmon

Time distortions are fact. Even the GPS/ Navstar constellation accounts for it.


22 posted on 04/09/2018 8:02:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republiverycans took their slaves away.)
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To: rjsimmon

I’ve often distorted time when my wife would ask why I was out so late.


23 posted on 04/09/2018 8:08:26 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: CodeToad

Not distortion. Those are calculation errors. We studied this in Post Grad school.


24 posted on 04/09/2018 8:11:34 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Little Pig
Time distortion is not only possible, it’s necessary.

Nope. How you measure it may be necessary but time itself is not distorted. It is like saying you distorted a river by sticking your finger in it. The river stays the same but only the area around your finger is affected.

25 posted on 04/09/2018 8:13:19 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: oldbrowser
Didn't I just read that all the galaxies are moving away from each other? Now they aren't ?

While space itself is indeed expanding, galaxies in clusters are close enough to each other for their gravity to keep them together. But 99.9999% (give or take) of the rest of the galaxies continue to get further apart.

26 posted on 04/09/2018 8:18:55 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: rjsimmon

You didn’t study the Navstar system, and obviously didn’t study physics.

So, no, those are not ‘calculation errors’.


27 posted on 04/09/2018 9:00:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republiverycans took their slaves away.)
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To: rjsimmon

Bad analogy. Study physics then get to us.


28 posted on 04/09/2018 9:01:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republiverycans took their slaves away.)
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29 posted on 04/09/2018 9:02:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: rjsimmon

If you claim distorting time is impossible, then please point to your peer reviewed paper proving that claim.


30 posted on 04/09/2018 9:03:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republiverycans took their slaves away.)
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To: CodeToad
If you claim distorting time is impossible, then please point to your peer reviewed paper proving that claim.

Cannot prove a negative. Where are the peer reviewed papers "proving" time distortion? All of the thesis I have seen regarding this issue all relate to mathematical abhorations.

How do you measure time? If you point to a clock, then all you are doing is exposing the mechanism, not time itself. Decay is dependent upon environment, so that is variable. The passage of time is relative to the observer.

31 posted on 04/09/2018 9:07:27 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Phlap

Wherever you go, there you are...


32 posted on 04/09/2018 9:16:53 AM PDT by Noumenon (It isn't racist if it's true, is it?)
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To: rjsimmon

Time is relative. And so is distortion.


33 posted on 04/09/2018 9:35:43 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: CodeToad

Yep. Calculation errors. Navstar is based upon gravitational time dilation. This essentially says that the closer a clock gets to the center of a gravitational well, the slower it goes. This is explained by the effects of gravity on the atomic particles within the clock/mass. The resistance of the decaying particles as they recede from the gravity well is greater than its movement towards the well, slowing it down. The farther away from the well, the faster it goes which is why GPS satellites have this algorithmic adjustment. This is not a distortion of time but of the mechanism by which we measure it.


34 posted on 04/09/2018 9:41:25 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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35 posted on 04/09/2018 11:29:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Little Pig; HangnJudge; rjsimmon
At very high speeds, time distorts significantly (passes slower).

If that were true, then it would mean that our estimates of how far away galaxies are from us, and how old these galaxies are, and how LONG it took light from that galaxy to get to us.... are all completely wrong.

As far as being unable to separate TIME from spatial dimensions, ALL EFFORTS at FTL travel are attempts to remove TIME from spatial dimensions.

At high spatial distortions, the same thing happens, such as at the event horizon of a black hole.

We have no idea what really happens at the event horizon of a black hole.

36 posted on 04/09/2018 1:55:24 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: oldbrowser; Simon Green
Didn't I just read that all the galaxies are moving away from each other?

That came from the 'expanding universe' theory, which has a giant flaw.

In order for the 'universe' to expand and yet keep the same 'density', it must somehow acquire MORE MASS.

Based on estimates of the size of the universe (which really only reflects our limited ability to perceive), if it were expanding, it would require more mass than we estimate is IN the ENTIRE KNOWN universe.

37 posted on 04/09/2018 2:03:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: HangnJudge; rjsimmon
This is because the observed rate at which time passes depends on an object’s velocity relative to the observer.

Again, another theory that doesn't hold up well.

First off, for it to be accurate the observer would have to be located in a NON MOVING SPOT. There is no such place in the Universe. Or perhaps, to be more clear, one cannot find such a spot as there is no 'reference' point to determine whether one is moving or not.

Second, the theory depends on there only being one observer. Two different observers would obtain two different timelines. Which one would then be correct ?

38 posted on 04/09/2018 2:13:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: rjsimmon
A better phrase would be visual distortion.

True. More precisely it would be a distortion of EM waves, of which visual 'light' is.

Distorting space, possibly.

I don't think you can distort space, as space is the absence of matter. You can't distort that which has no shape or form.

Distorting time? Impossible.

If you accept Einstein's theory, then time can be 'distorted'. Of course, it is only distorted (according to an earlier post) to the OBSERVER and not the OBSERVED. Which would mean It WAS distorted and AT THE SAME TIME was NOT DISTORTED.

Kinda like Quantum Theory. It is and it is not.

39 posted on 04/09/2018 2:34:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2
In order for the 'universe' to expand and yet keep the same 'density', it must somehow acquire MORE MASS.

Where has it been asserted that the universe is keeping the same "density"? As space expands, the average "density" of the universe goes down, obviously.

40 posted on 04/09/2018 2:58:18 PM PDT by Simon Green
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