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To: bagster

Bagster, you are going literary, I see ... invoking both Hari Seldon and John Galt in this thread.

Well. I’ve got one too: Edmond Dantes ... aka the Count of Monte Cristo ... who was imprisoned wrongly for years but escaped to claim a great treasure and wreak vengeance upon his enemies.


189 posted on 03/31/2018 5:59:05 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Great Awakenings on reddit sniffing out a DeNiro sex ring in Paris.


190 posted on 03/31/2018 6:02:19 AM PDT by txhurl (The Final Thunderdome: Two Americas enter, One America leaves)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Re Hari Seldon and the Count of Monte Cristo:

I love ‘em both, but for different reasons.

The Foundation series (at least the first three, before Asimov and his estate tried to capitalize on their success by writing extensions) postulated a thermodynamics of history. Great idea! Of course it’s often been observed that there’s an eerie semi-repitition of events over the past thousand years. Ibn-al-Khaldun, Mark Twain, Karl Marx (”History repeats, first as tragedy, then as farce.”), and many others have noticed. But, the concept of mass-action prediction is relatively recent.

The Count of Monte Cristo is the greatest revenge fantasy ever written, IMHO. One thing I find interesting in its plot is that, had the evil characters in it not continued in their ways, Edmond Dantes’ traps for them would not have worked. He didn’t have to lead them into temptation; he just provided the circumstances that naturally inclined them to precipitate their own well-deserved doom.


191 posted on 03/31/2018 6:07:18 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("Married with children.")
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To: Disestablishmentarian; bagster

So, as Foundation fans (or readers) did either of you associate Trump with the Mule character (i.e. the Plan disruptor)? Just wondering if I was the only one...


230 posted on 03/31/2018 8:15:16 AM PDT by PrairieDawg (#Drain The Swamp - NOW!)
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To: Disestablishmentarian
Well. I’ve got one too: Edmond Dantes ... aka the Count of Monte Cristo ... who was imprisoned wrongly for years but escaped to claim a great treasure and wreak vengeance upon his enemies.

Snowden? Assange??? I think Assange. I hope anyway. Good one. :)

282 posted on 03/31/2018 10:59:36 AM PDT by bagster (Even bad men love their mamas.)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

The sea is the cemetery of the Chateau d’If.


301 posted on 03/31/2018 11:46:29 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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