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Why a mystery armoured train could hold the key to Kim Jong-un’s rumoured visit to China
scmp ^ | 27 March, 2018 | Sarah Zheng http://twitter.com/_szheng sarah.zheng@scmp.com 286SHARE 7 PrintEmail

Posted on 03/27/2018 12:19:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono

The mysterious armoured train that arrived in Beijing on Monday night is one of the main pieces of evidence to support the theory that Kim Jong-un is making a historic visit to China.

While Beijing has yet to confirm Kim is in Beijing, the arrival of the train coupled with reports of heightened security at a state guest house and along the Chinese border with North Korea, all point towards a visit by a senior figure from Pyongyang.

If the train really was carrying the younger Kim it would be his first trip abroad since he succeeded his father in late 2011.

Heavily fortified – and, if rumour is to be believed, luxurious – rail carriages were the favoured mode of transport for the North Korean leader’s father and grandfather.

Kim Il-sung, the founder of the Communist dynasty, used a train as his headquarters during the Korean war, and his heirs have continued to prefer rail over air travel.

The trains are believed to be decked out with conference rooms, bedrooms, and audience chambers, with hi-tech communications such as satellite phones and flat-screen television screens.

It was last seen outside the country in 2011 when Kim Jong-il, the current leader’s father, visited Ulan-Ude in southeastern Russia to meet Dmitry Medvedev, the president at the time.

At the time South Korea’s Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported that the elder Kim, who was afraid of flying, rode in a convoy of three trains.

He travelled in the middle one, with an advance train checking that the tracks were safe and the rear train carrying support personnel.

The train also carried two armoured Mercedes to carry Kim to and from the train.

While few have been able to access these trains, details have been revealed by North Korea state media and by accounts from passengers who have been given a rare glimpse of what happens onboard.

According to the former Russian diplomat Konstantin Pulikovsky, the 22-carriage train Kim took on a trip to Russia in 2011 was well-stocked with luxuries, including live lobsters and fine wines from Bordeaux and Burgundy.

North Korea’s official broadcaster has also previously featured images of the trains, detailing carriage floors bulletproofed with iron sheets and a narrow train carriage that appeared to contain Kim Jong-il’s office – complete with glossy wooden floors, a wooden desk and chair, and camel-coloured sofa.

The dictator maintained six of these trains for his personal use, with 19 stations in North Korea that had been solely designed to serve these trains, according to analysis cited by Chosun Ilbo.

The trains usually travel at 60km/h (37mph) and were given enhanced levels of security after a 2004 explosion near North Korea’s border with China that left 160 people dead and 1,300 injured in what was rumoured to have been an assassination attempt on Kim.

Kim had taken numerous trips on these trains, and according to North Korean television, he even died of a heart attack on board one of them.

North Korean leaders rarely leave their country – if the train really was carrying the younger Kim it would be his first trip abroad since he succeeded his father – so its arrival has fuelled speculation ahead of a proposed summit between the younger Kim and US President Donald Trump.

Direct talks between the leaders, planned to take place before a May deadline, had previously stirred talk that China – North Korea’s largest trading partner – was being sidelined as an actor in the Korean peninsula.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: armouredtrain; crazytrain; kimjongun; northkorea
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1 posted on 03/27/2018 12:19:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

It was a protocol visit, to meet personally with the Chinese leader for life prior to meeting with Trump.


2 posted on 03/27/2018 12:22:21 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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That the train which narrowly escaped being destroyed in the big explosion a few years back?


3 posted on 03/27/2018 12:24:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Earlier this month, he met for the first time with two high-level representatives from South Korea in Pyongyang, the highest-level meeting between the two countries in years. He and South Korean President Moon Jae-In are supposed to have a summit in April, a historic meeting no matter what happens.

4 posted on 03/27/2018 12:31:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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The Ryongchŏn disaster was a train disaster that occurred on April 22, 2004, in the town of Ryongchŏn, North Korea, near the border with the People's Republic of China.

The disaster occurred when flammable cargo exploded at Ryongchon Station at around 13:00 local time (04:00 GMT). The news was released by South Korean media outlets, which reported that up to 3,000 people had been killed or injured in the blast and subsequent fires.

The North Korean government declared a state of emergency in the region, but little information about the accident has been made public by the North Korean government. Shortly after the accident the North Korean government cut telephone lines to the rest of the world (an action correspondents attributed either to a desire to inhibit foreign reporting or to prevent their own population from learning news about the accident).

5 posted on 03/27/2018 12:38:04 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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More likely it was his sister visiting China. Rocket man is too afraid to travel. Anyone know if Dennis Rodman was also in China?


6 posted on 03/27/2018 12:54:44 PM PDT by takbodan (.)
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To: JoeProBono

Please tell me that pic is shopped. Otherwise, I’d say Rocket Man is from Remulac.


7 posted on 03/27/2018 1:03:53 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: JoeProBono

Good way to smuggle nuclear materials too. So “win-win”!


8 posted on 03/27/2018 1:09:56 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: takbodan
More likely it was his sister visiting China. Rocket man is too afraid to travel. Anyone know if Dennis Rodman was also in China?

Does his sister and Dennis have a thing going on?

9 posted on 03/27/2018 1:11:22 PM PDT by varon (Let the hanging games begin)
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>The Ryongchŏn disaster was a train disaster that occurred on April 22, 2004

I remember seeing a couple dozen pictures that were released at the time that were taken by an international aid agency that was in the country at the time. The ground level images looked very similar to the damage seen in nuclear tests. Not saying it was but the over-pressures from the blast wave created the same type of damage. Pretty much the whole city was turned to rubble. Some have speculated that it was an early deployment of the "Rods from God" Google images has some of the pictures.

10 posted on 03/27/2018 1:14:24 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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>>The disaster occurred when flammable cargo exploded at Ryongchon Station at around 13:00 local time (04:00 GMT). The news was released by South Korean media outlets, which reported that up to 3,000 people had been killed or injured in the blast and subsequent fires.<<

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That’ll teach them NOT to use LNG — safest and cleanest fuel.


11 posted on 03/27/2018 1:20:32 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: JoeProBono

Story posted several times no pix. Hoped when seeing your nome de plume we’d see a pix of the train. Thanx! What’s interesting is the uniforms those cops are wearing are similar to most countries including ours.


12 posted on 03/27/2018 1:32:18 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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Thx

Spekulationen um heimlichen Besuch von Kim Jong-un in China

13 posted on 03/27/2018 2:08:14 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: mrsmith

Even when Kim has traveled by air it has been domestic flights only since becoming ruler of North Korea. Here he is seen aboard a VVIP configured IL-62M. During this mission he flew over Pyongyang to look at a large development project.

14 posted on 03/27/2018 2:21:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

That massive hat...


15 posted on 03/27/2018 2:51:09 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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The hat does double duty as a WOK.


16 posted on 03/27/2018 3:07:21 PM PDT by offduty
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To: 1Old Pro

I wonder if he’s aware of how many suspicious plane crashes killed other leaders. Another reason to take the train.


17 posted on 03/27/2018 3:12:43 PM PDT by tbw2
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18 posted on 03/27/2018 3:26:56 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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19 posted on 03/27/2018 3:32:45 PM PDT by x
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They need hamburgers, lots of hamburgers.

And French fries.

5.56mm


20 posted on 03/27/2018 3:34:47 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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