how about now? My son and I grow hops and make beer a few times a year as a hobby and a bonding time. He's married and starting a family but we still try to get together and spend some time. He also loves gardening. I had him poking holes and planting seeds when he was just able to walk. Now he does square foot gardening in his small back yard. It doesn't take much space to grow and it's very rewarding.