Posted on 03/20/2018 10:38:50 AM PDT by Morgana
FULL TITLE: Three Arkansas high school students are PADDLED by staff after they participated in walkout protesting gun violence
At least three students at an Arkansas high school say they were swatted with a paddle for participating in the nationwide walkout protests to promote stricter gun laws.
The incident happened last Wednesday at Greenbrier Public Schools after the teens returned back to classes.
Jerusalem Greer, the mother of one of the students, Wylie Greer, posted what happened on her Twitter page.
'My kid and two other students walked out of their rural, very conservative, public school for 17 minutes today,' she wrote. 'They were given two punishment options. They chose corporal punishment. This generation is not playing around. #walkout'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
“It is hard to get my arms around the concept of a parent being OK with a government official striking their own flesh and blood.”
Are you very young? In the ‘50s and kid acted up in school, parents I knew expected the teacher to “apply the board of education to the seat of knowledge”. Then the encore paddling would occur at home.
Yeah yeah.
Read the article. It undercuts everything you said.
Tom J., principal of a rural country school in the late fifties, gave me over 80 licks during the course of my seventh year/grade.
Every one of them hurt like hell!
I went on to employ hundreds in my lifetime and be fairly successful. So, administered fairly and dispassionately (without anger) getting a lick or two will straighten a kid out. Did me.
Outsource ?
LOL...
These were high schoolers...
It was their decision
When my kids were in public schools, I had it on file that if they needed a paddling, I was to be called. I would come deliver it... in front of their classmates.
NO goobermint bureaucrat will touch my kids unless they have a death wish.
This was not a National Holiday. They were supposed to be in class. The parents of those brats need a paddling.
Did the paddles paddle the children, or did the teachers paddle the children?
The punishment here is not the sting of the swat but the sting of humiliation. A little of that from time to time is good for everybody.
good!
You're lucky. My Geology teacher in 7th grade was Mr. Woods was a 5'5" Marine with six horizontal lines on his forehead, heavily tanned skin, and forearms the size of my calves, but bigger.
And he was the baseball coach.
I remember after class, holding my ankles, looking through my legs at him as he did a few slow practice swings, saying gently "You never know when it is going to hit..." then
WHACK!
I remember vividly digging my fingers deep into my butt-cheeks because of the pain.
But I never held it against Mr. Woods. He was a soft spoken guy who told you exactly what the punishments for various infractions would be.
One punishment was to have to stand at the front of the class and hold the largest weight from a balance scale out at arm's length. He did it so easily. If you let your arm down, you had to stay after class for the paddle.
But he let you know what behavior he expected. And he always carried through. I liked him as a teacher and a man. The paddle taught me a lesson about giving your word and carrying through with it.
Good for them
They used to sell Fanny Whackers at Disneyland, Knotts Berry farm... in the 60’s
It doesn't.
For clarity, my point is that any parent ok with a government bureaucrat striking their child isn't fit for parenting. That's "It takes a village" nonsense.
Ah, another ‘Doodle’ shallow thinker.
I suspect my position is misunderstood.
The job of educating children rests with the parents. Marx didn't like that idea:
But, you will say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations when we replace home education by social.
And your education! Is not that also social and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention, direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools? The Communists have not invented the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.
The bourgeois clap-trap about the family and education, about the hallowed co-relation of parent and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour.
Fast forward to this story. Marx would be happy. Public school is serving a troika of societal needs such as training, day care, and indoctrination. Parents are happy with their kids getting 15 min of fame through corporal punishment.
Within public education, the state stands in loco parentis during school hours. That means our forefathers were OK allowing the government to strike their kids, because, well, that's what they would have done. That worked for millennia.
However, just because our elders' generation (and apparently some FRiends) are ok with some dude at school in a suit and tie hitting their kids, I don't share in that happiness. Not just because if someone hits my kids it's war, but because there is a fundamental, game-changing truth that has been established.
Regardless of the alignment of the punishment with the crime or that paperwork is in order, forget for a moment one's feeling about corporal punishment: a vital principle - the rights of the parent - has been surrendered. By extension, you have equally OK'd your child being forced to watch anti-gun films, receive Sex Ed at 6 years old, and attend environmentalist-driven field trips.
Oh sure, there is the School Board, PTA and other flaccid pseudo-levers of power handed to the parent. And maybe after months of fighting and blood, sweat and tears, Johnny doesn't have to go on the field trip.
In the end you cannot ignore the truth: you've surrendered your child to the state.
Thanks for listening.
Good. More please.
Corporal punishment should be fully reinstated in the schools - no opt-out allowed. I know that thinking about my 6’7” history teacher with a wood paddle in his hand (with the holes in it to cut back on drag) kept me in my seat with my mouth shut many a time.
"He said the three received the punishment only after their parents provided permission."
I agree that "the system worked" in this case. Rules were followed, sanction was received, and justice dispensed. It even sound like the punishment wasn't severe.
I also would note there is even a sense of victory insofar as the punished were advocates of abridging the Second Amendment.
I am simply looking at this system, which in this case worked for "our side." But just four days ago, a Hilliard, Ohio, senior was suspended for refusing to leave the classroom while the March 14 gun control walkout occurred.. And if that isn't bad enough, a New Jersey high school came under fire Friday after it allegedly suspended two students over a gun photo taken during a family visit to a shooting range.The NJ school policy provides for suspending students for up to a year if they are "reported to be in possession of a weapon of any type for any reason or purpose on or off school grounds."
This is the stuff about which I'm talking.
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