Posted on 03/16/2018 9:42:27 PM PDT by ransomnote
The guns and ammunition of a 56-year-old Lighthouse Point, Florida, resident were confiscated by police in what is reportedly the first such seizure under gun control laws signed by Gov. Rick Scott (R) last week. The Orlando Sentinel reports that “four firearms and 267 rounds of ammunition” were taken from the man, and he was “taken to a hospital for involuntary psychiatric treatment.”
The seized firearms were listed as “a Ruger LCP .380 pistol, an M2 Mauser .45 pistol, a Charter Arms .357 mag snub nose revolver and a Mossberg 500 12-gauge shotgun.”
The paper notes that “the civil ruling removing his access to guns and ammunition was granted under … new legislation — which permits confiscating guns from people who have not been committed but are deemed a potential risk to themselves or others, according to the order signed by Broward’s Chief Judge Jack Tuter.”
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Just like in Stalinst Russia.
It’s a long standing Florida Law called the Baker Act. No need to get yours panties in a twist just yet.
There is so much room here for disgruntled neighbors & vendettas.
Not really. “Baker Acting” someone in Florida is a serious issue. It’s not done lightly.
I really hope that they can't hide behind "medical history is private info". If he is a danger to the community then we should know what caused him to lose his guns. If he is not then we should know in order to protest and support his legal defense.
Great News, this will certainly prevent Swatting, ... Oh, wait, ...
Confiscating the firearms, however, does not require person be Baker acted, acc to the Sun-Sentinel article. Due process?
No. There has to be sufficient evidence leading a reasonable person to conclude that possession of a firearm probably poses a threat to the person or others. Note the order is temporary.
Here is the section that applies. I assume that if the person is say a convicted felon the firearms would not be returned.
“Firearms or ammunition seized or voluntarily surrendered
487 under this paragraph must be made available for return no later
488 than 24 hours after the person taken into custody can document
489 that he or she is no longer subject to involuntary examination
490 and has been released or discharged from any inpatient or
491 involuntary outpatient treatment provided or ordered under
492 paragraph (g), unless a risk protection order entered under s.
493 790.401 directs the law enforcement agency to hold the firearms
494 or ammunition for a longer period or the person is subject to a
495 firearm purchase disability under s. 790.065(2), or a firearm
496 possession and firearm ownership disability under s. 790.064.
497 The process for the actual return of firearms or ammunition
498 seized or voluntarily surrendered under this paragraph may not
499 take longer than 7 days.”
Whoa, threatening to kill his neighbors dog? What is he, a cop?
“The man told officers he “was being targeted and burglarized by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and a neighbor who lives in [his] building,” the judge wrote in his order. “[He] could not describe the neighbor but stated that the neighbor [can] ‘shape shift, he can change heights and I’m not sure where he comes from’ and ‘to be honest, he looks like Osama Bin Laden.’”
He also told officers that he had to turn off the electrical breakers because “they are electrocuting me through my legs.”
Officers said they saw weapons in his home after they were called to check on his welfare. They also found evidence he had “a voluminous amount of notes containing numerous references to former President Barack Obama, that he was killed in the 1980s but came back and now murders children to place their spirits into [the man’s] head, is a member of [al-Qaida], and is [the man’s] enemy,” the judge wrote in his order.”
He is not my idea of a Second Amendment poster child.
California has recently enacted similar laws.
They have huge potential for abuse.
I fail to come up with a better alternative though.
If someone is a nutjob....people gotta know.
Yep, based on that article, I’d say he’s paranoid schizophrenic, to the extreme. Maybe if he’d get on meds and show some improvement....I’d let the guy have his guns back.
As one might gaze across the nation....the statistical folks suggest that up to three-million folks are paranoid schizophrenic.
You stop it. Can’t you see we’re not fighting here yet?
:P
I don’t have much faith in the Sheriff of Broward - he was photographed grinning ear to ear with Hillary Clinton. Plus, Broward has decided to house released sex offenders under a bridge and in a remote trailer park resulting in there being more than 100 sex offenders in one or two square miles. It’s the judgment that seems lacking - all of this missteps made re Parkland shooting - same county.
Hillary Clinton made a campaign stop in Broward the last 72 hours of her campaign. She only spoke for about 5 minutes (rained out) but had time to praise the Broward school board etc. Fawned over them. Yeah too much Hillary, too many questions dodged re Parkland so I’m skeptical of this gun grab.
"Deemed" and taken to the hospital for Involuntary psychiatric treatment.
undoubtedly re education camps will soon be necessary to accommodate the many individuals deemed to be in need of psychiatric treatment.
// The man was also taken to a hospital for involuntary psychiatric treatment under the state’s Baker Act. But the civil ruling removing his access to guns and ammunition was granted under the new legislation — which permits confiscating guns from people ***who have not been committed but are deemed a potential risk to themselves or others***, according to the order signed by Broward’s Chief Judge Jack Tuter. //
Better info here — http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-guns-seized-lighthouse-point-20180316-story.html
Thanks. And there are statutory provisions regarding the rights of those who have been involuntarily committed once the 72 hour hold is up.
LMAO!!!
Ok. Yes.
I fully agree and retract all former statements.
If this is true. Please lock this dude up and take away his guns.
....can’t write this sh!t.....
The Nazis did this too.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
An ex parte order is a form of due process.
Okay, this could be good or bad. Article completely devoid of details. What was the guy’s problem that cause involuntary commitment?
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