[philman_36]

Pretty sure what I now believe to be the cabal started here in the US right around 1900 give or take a few years.

Progressive movement...The Progressive Movement and the Transformation of American Politics

Progressivism was the reform movement that ran from the late 19th century through the first decades of the 20th century, during which leading intellectuals and social reformers in the United States sought to address the economic, political, and cultural questions that had arisen in the context of the rapid changes brought with the Industrial Revolution and the growth of modern capitalism in America. The Progressives believed that these changes marked the end of the old order and required the creation of a new order appropriate for the new industrial age.
TR was a Progressive.

Somebody said something about fundamentally transforming America...

[AzNASCARfan]

Yeah I knew the progressive side... Just thought I remembered it being more conservationist, Been awhile. I do remember being surprised about finding out the social programs he signed in though now that you mention it, The books I read about him were after politics I think, “after the white house” Trumpets call I think? and his adventure down the Amazon...

I have been trying to figure out the “progressive” I have known a few people that called themselves that and it seemed like we agreed about many things, most things on what government should and should not do. A lot of them seemed to only differ in their disbelief of God or eternal life.