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To: Lazamataz
A ban on ANY arms is an infringement.

Realistically, however, our nation can't seem to equip itself with a Supreme Court that understands that marriage is between one man and one woman or that unborn babies should not be murdered in the womb.

For that reason we are obliged to suffer some setbacks in the effort to restore our rights.

Assuming that Gorsuch is what he seems to be and that Trump will nominate others of similar opinions, then there is hardly a sacrifice not worth making to keep Trump's ability to nominate Supreme Court Justices.

Trump manages to take the wind out of the anti-gunners sails by directing the DOJ to re-examine their stance on bump stocks. This matter was already researched thoroughly by a BATFE that would willingly ban ANY firearm if they thought the legislation justifies it. During the so-called "Assault Weapons Ban" they willingly barred some rifles because they had a bayonet lug. Not a bayonet, mind you; just the little piece of metal that would permit a bayonet to be attached.

For this reason, I have no doubt, without even reading the applicable laws, that bump stocks do NOT fall under the laws against machine guns. If they did, the BATFE would already have banned them.

That means that a lawsuit or a criminal prosecution involving bump stocks will be thrown out; even if it takes a Supreme Court decision to do so.

Without the bump-stock issue, I see no chance whatever that Congress will be passing any anti-gun legislation in the near future. That is what Trump has accomplished.

The same can probably be claimed for any ban on acquiring rifles by those who are 18 to 20, a clear infringement.

The Constitution clearly sets a minimum age for Congressmaen, Senators, and the President. If the Founders had meant to have an arbitrary age limit for possession of arms, they knew how to say it. As it is, the Constitution must be amended to implement such a ban.

131 posted on 03/11/2018 6:08:24 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

I agree with you that a ban on any arms is infringement.

We lost that battle in 1934 and again in 1958.

Since 1934 we have not been allowed to own rifles with barrels less than 16” in length — a CLEAR infringement of our 2KBA rights. Yet the people allowed it and have never demanded overturning that infringement.

I’m not applauding more, I am just saying our pure 2KBA right no longer exists because most people can’t recognized what it is and what we lost. We will never again have pure, uninfringed second amendment rights. Never.

Otherwise, I agree completely with you.


189 posted on 03/11/2018 10:38:31 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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