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To: papertyger; Ambrosia
If I understand it correctly, your thesis is Ambrosia's sentiments of sadness that so many men now think marriage is evil, and all women are money grubbers, is NOT fueled by a plan to eviscerate traditional masculinity, but due to there being no societal controls on "the natural provlivity of women to vanity and duplicity."

Put aside for a moment, whether or not we are all hard-wired that way. The attendant proclivities of both sexes you list have been around since Original Sin (or since man climbed from the primordial soup for non-believers) and we got along pretty well for centuries with the attendant controls (or lack thereof). What remedy do you believe NOW is needed to TRULY force women to live by the same rules as men?

219 posted on 03/11/2018 8:01:22 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob; Ambrosia
What remedy do you believe NOW is needed to TRULY force women to live by the same rules as men?

Precisely that. Force women to live by the same rules as men. The most numerous block of voters (women) should NOT be afforded the special privileges they enjoy today.

Notice one of Ambrosia's comments: "...children must be taken care of financially. So our laws do favor women in that area...."

She presumes the law favoring women is synonymous with taking care of the children. I doubt she even notices the numerous assumptions that brief comment reveals.

Most women have so thoroughly internalized the excuses used to favor them that they now perceive questioning those excuses as a hostile act. (Who doesn't understand the REAL reason child support must be paid to the ex, rather than direct purchase of goods and services for the child's benefit?)

. I believe men have to reevaluate ALL of the disparities we've learned to take for granted, and STRIDENTLY campaign against them, because women are going to stridently oppose losing such favors.

As Rush Limbaugh once said: women want to be treated like ladies, but they want to be able to play as rough as they need to win. Men need to learn to play as rough as WE need to win.

229 posted on 03/11/2018 8:58:12 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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