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Teenager denies school shooting plot; Governor says allegations ‘jolted me’
VT Digger ^ | 16Feb2018 | Alan J. Keays

Posted on 02/16/2018 7:52:34 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor

Police arrested a Vermont teenager on Thursday after they say he threatened to cause “mass casualties” at Fair Haven Union High School.

Jack Sawyer, 18, of Poultney, is currently held without bail and set to be arraigned Friday afternoon in Rutland Superior criminal court, police said.

He faces charges of attempted aggravated murder, attempted first-degree murder and attempted aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, according to police.

Starting Wednesday and continuing into Thursday, members of the Fair Haven Police Department and Vermont State Police detectives have been investigation a threat of a school shooting at Fair Haven Union High School, police said.

Over the course of the investigation police said they learned that Sawyer “communicated his desire to cause mass casualties” at the high school. Police said Sawyer was taken into custody Thursday. The investigation is continuing, according police.

According to Fair Haven Police, at about 5 p.m. Wednesday police and high school officials received information about a possible threat against the high school. Police said the high school was then placed on “restricted access” and all returning sports teams being bused back to the school were rerouted to another location.

Fair Haven Police said that after investigating they were able to “locate all parties mentioned in the information and were unable to substantiate any threat against the school.”

Police learned of the threat in Fair Haven just hours after the shooting that killed 17 people at a high school in Florida.

On Thursday, Fair Haven Police said investigators “developed new” information leading to Sawyer’s arrest.

Anyone who has had recent contact with Sawyer is asked to call Vermont State Police at 802-773-9101.


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Initial call went to local police who then brought the State police in. Other reports indicate his parents had sent him to a mental health facility in Maine and he just returned a few days ago.
1 posted on 02/16/2018 7:52:34 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: GreyHoundSailor

It’s a complex issue what to do with such a teenager.

I’m all for civil liberties, but they belong to people who can distinguish between right and wrong and can distinguish between when, if you have such thoughts, you do not express them nor allow them to simmer. If he just returned a few days ago and now expresses this kind of thing, he damn well better go back. And I mean, for 6 months minimum.


2 posted on 02/16/2018 8:01:39 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

It will be interesting to see what deeper investigation reveals. Wondering if his parent sent him to Maine so Vermont authorities wouldn’t know? Vermont has a terrible record of inputting mental defectives to NICS and it doesn’t appear Maine put him in the system either.


3 posted on 02/16/2018 8:08:18 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: GreyHoundSailor

It’s just a matter of time before the next one.

When are the schools and students going to be secured?

When? How many more?

We apparently do not care at all.


4 posted on 02/16/2018 8:10:25 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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Sad to say, could this be a success story ? Re: finding a mentally ill person wanting to do harm.

Full admission, I have not done any research on this.

5 posted on 02/16/2018 8:12:43 PM PST by onona (So I got that going for me)
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All happened in the past three days, so not a lot of info out yet. Appears one girl called the local police and they took action; good thing she didn’t call the FBI.


6 posted on 02/16/2018 8:19:55 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: chris37

Why don’t you try changing the Constitution if you don’t like it.


7 posted on 02/16/2018 9:00:41 PM PST by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: libertylover

There’s nothing in the Constitution that schools and students cannot be secured.

Why don’t you try reading my post before you respond to it.


8 posted on 02/16/2018 9:09:02 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Was murder really “attempted,” or were there only words?


9 posted on 02/16/2018 9:21:10 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: chris37

OK. I wasn’t sure how you meant it. I guess I do now.


10 posted on 02/16/2018 9:21:30 PM PST by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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Alright! No problem at all. I could have worded it better.

I want the schools fortified and the students protected by trained and armed men. All of them, all the time.


11 posted on 02/16/2018 9:26:24 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

How is he charged with “attempted” murder when all he’s done is run his mouth? Besides, wouldn’t saying you’re going to kill someone be considered free speech?


12 posted on 02/16/2018 9:30:20 PM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

It should be like threatening the president. Interview and assess, if the threat is real then there are places to send them to get help or at least keep us safe.


13 posted on 02/16/2018 9:37:11 PM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First!)
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There’s nothing in the Constitution that schools and students cannot be secured.

There is nothing in the Constitution about schools and students period. There is plenty in there about liberties. Schools and students are not distinguished as being special. We all have the same liberties and restrictions.

14 posted on 02/16/2018 9:45:28 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

No $hit.

Thanks for stating the blatantly obvious for no apparent reason whatsoever.


15 posted on 02/16/2018 10:07:51 PM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

I’m all for locking up these morons and CERTAINLY preventing them from getting firearms
In fact I think the legal age for firearms should be 21


16 posted on 02/16/2018 10:12:11 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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A ballot is more dangerous than a gun. AND you are old enough to handle a gun at 18 in the molitary.
This sounds like overreach to me. Having the coos question the kid is fine. The article said he never threatened anyone.


17 posted on 02/16/2018 10:36:13 PM PST by ZULU (Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. - WC)
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I remember about 10 years ago when the press was all aghast about nooses. Some high school band members were talking about it and someone asked if anyone knew how to tie a noose. One band member said he could but he would not do it or show someone how to do it.

They arrested this student.


18 posted on 02/17/2018 12:37:09 AM PST by american_ranger (Our family motto is being miserable builds character.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Do these cops want a job running the FBI?


19 posted on 02/17/2018 12:44:49 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: onona

It would not have helped if you had. Half a century ago the ACLU funded a movement to prevent pre-emptive hospitalization of crazy people who were expected to do harm. After watching too many Betty Davis movies, the courts and legislators bought into the notion that civil liberties precluded holding these crazies until they have actually harmed someone or themselves. Or, pretty close to that. It is so embedded one cannot possibly change the law.


20 posted on 02/17/2018 12:49:45 AM PST by anton
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