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On this date in 1945

Posted on 02/11/2018 12:44:35 PM PST by Bull Snipe

The Yalta Conference wrapped up. American President Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Churchill and Soviet leader Stalin came to agreement on several important issues regarding the outcome of the War. The leaders agreed that the unconditional surrender of German would be the way the war ended. Germany and Berlin would be divided into four occupation zones after the war ended. There would be international trials of German war criminals. In addition the Soviets agreed to declare war on Japan within three months after the war in Europe ended. They would join the UN. The Soviets would also retain possession of that part of Poland they got in 1939.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: churchill; ethniccleansing; expostfactolaws; germany; poland; roosevelt; showtrials; stalin; ww2; yalta; yaltaconference
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To: SunkenCiv
Yes, Stalin was unable to function. He spent about a week in his Dacha, and when Molotov, and two others came to his dacha, Stalin assumed they were there to arrest him, and that he would be tried and executed as a traitor to the Republic.

An interesting side note is that U.S. communists were still actively involved in opposing U.S. war against Germany. That's how directly controlled by Stalin they were.

41 posted on 02/11/2018 1:59:59 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

That’s pretty inaccurate about Truman not knowing anything about the war. He was up to his eyeballs in all the background work that it took to build our bases, build our aircraft, build our ships erc. Fought relentlessly against Fraud and Abuse and waste that was a very real enemy.


42 posted on 02/11/2018 2:01:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Reily

Not in 1945. But in 1941/42. Stalin desperately needed help. And he needed a second front.


43 posted on 02/11/2018 2:04:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: bobby.223

Archie Bunker : [Maude refuses to get out of Archie’s chair] Well, I got the secret weapon that can lay this little lady right away. Here we go. This country was ruined by Franklin Delano Roosevelt!

Cousin Maude : You’re fat.

Archie Bunker : Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Franklin Delano Roosevelt...

Edith Bunker : Archie, you promised never to say that name again in front of Maude.

Archie Bunker : Franklin Delano Roosevelt!

Edith Bunker : [to Maude] He don’t mean nothing. His whole family was for Roosevelt.

Archie Bunker : That was for two terms. But that was it. We didn’t know the guy was going to hold on to the job like a pope!


44 posted on 02/11/2018 2:04:36 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

The same thing happened in World War I. England uses every dirty trick in the book to get American muscle to enforce their foreign policy.


45 posted on 02/11/2018 2:04:38 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

He had some involvement here, but not secret stuff, and overseas stuff. FDR had him completely cut out. He had to take a crash course when he FDR died. FDR’s daughter knew far more.


46 posted on 02/11/2018 2:06:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Jim Noble
The Red Army took Lemberg/Lwow/Lvov/Lviv in June 1944!

It's Lwów!

47 posted on 02/11/2018 2:06:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

agree


48 posted on 02/11/2018 2:06:23 PM PST by Reily
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To: Bull Snipe
Yalta is also where we got the North/South Korea split:

"After being assured of an occupation zone in Korea, and possession of Sakhalin Island and other territories historically disputed between Russia and Japan, Stalin agreed to enter the Pacific War within two to three months of Germany’s surrender."

From: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/yalta-conference-ends

49 posted on 02/11/2018 2:11:46 PM PST by Rocky (I have principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: nickcarraway
An interesting side note is that U.S. communists were still actively involved in opposing U.S. war against Germany. That's how directly controlled by Stalin they were.

During the era when the Hitler-Stalin pact was in force, the Almanac Singers, a Communist singing group, put out an album of anti-war songs. After Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, the group put out pro-war songs. Incidentally, Pete Seeger, who enjoys rock star status among liberals, was part of that group.

Here are a couple of their anti-war songs from 1941:

The Ballad of October 16

Plow Under

Here's one of their pro-war songs, from 1942:

Reuben James

50 posted on 02/11/2018 2:41:27 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: dfwgator
Well, it sure wasn't the Russkies who slogged their way across the Pacific at places like Guadalcanal , Tarawa, , Pelilu, and Iwo Jima. And it damn sure wasn't their navy that put the Japanese Imperial Fleet at the bottom of the Pacific.
51 posted on 02/11/2018 2:49:29 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

Agreed.

But at the time, with the war in Europe over, now the Soviet Union had everything at their disposal to go after the Japs, they never forgot about what happened in 1905.


52 posted on 02/11/2018 2:52:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

And therein lies Hitler’s biggest mistake, in not realizing in that taking out the head would probably had collapsed the Command structure of the Soviet Union. Imagine if Stalin was overthrown by the rest of the Politburo, can you imagine the in-fighting that would have occurred?


53 posted on 02/11/2018 2:54:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; jmacusa
It was a combination of both.

Not really. The U.S. had already reduced almost every major city in Japan to rubble by conventional bombing.

Japan was scared of Russia, they weren't scared of the U.S.

54 posted on 02/11/2018 2:57:55 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dfwgator

The only thing the Russkies did in WW2 was supply cannonfodder. For crying out loud we were supplying them too.


55 posted on 02/11/2018 3:00:19 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Bull Snipe

I firmly believe that FDR made the “Cold War” and the Warsaw Pact and the death of millions by running for the 4th term. The reason was EGO, he felt that he was the “Essential Man” and by running he made Harry Truman his fall guy VP. His run in 1940 was almost as bad but 1944 was an absolute and avoidable DISASTER!


56 posted on 02/11/2018 4:01:28 PM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: jmacusa

Nine out of ten Germans soldiers to die in WWII were killed by the Russkies. The US, the Brits, and the Canadians accounted for the other one German killed.


57 posted on 02/11/2018 5:14:03 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: nickcarraway

During the war, the Russians had greatly reduced their strength in the Far East. The believed that the Japanese would not attack their forces along the Mongolian border as long as they were up to their butts with the Chinese and Americans. Once the decision was made to attack the Japanese in Manchuria, they started sending massive amounts of troops, tanks and artillery over the Trans Siberian railroad in preparation for their attack. That took some time.


58 posted on 02/11/2018 5:31:56 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: SES1066

Churchill is the person most responsible for the stuff you mention. And FDR for letting Churchill dwindle him.


59 posted on 02/11/2018 5:34:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: TBP
Almost as good as the story told on my grandfather. The previous year (1944), he had lost a teenage son in a hunting accident, had his two eldest sons serving in the war, my uncle in the Marines and my father in the U.S. Navy, his only daughter of working age in Washington, D.C. So he knew a little of tragedy and separation.

A woman accosted him in the local post office the day after FDR died and insisted he agree with her that FDR died for his country every bit as much as our men in uniform. Finally, he agreed, then added, "but he should have done it at least four years sooner!"

60 posted on 02/11/2018 5:57:59 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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