Posted on 02/10/2018 3:52:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
From #Metoo to #IDo. Many modern brides living in the age of female empowerment aren’t waiting for prince charming to pop the question — they’re taking their happily-ever-afters into their own hands.
“I knew if I proposed he would have a ring and I wouldn’t be like a kept woman,” said Rebecca Reed, who proposed to her boyfriend in July on their one-year anniversary date. “I was like: I’m taking it by the balls and doing it.”
Danielle Sinay, emboldened by the women’s movement, asked her boyfriend of three years to marry her in October.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Once you start throwing out traditions like last name changes and men asking women, why not the expensive diamond ring as well?
A plain gold one for both works just as well.
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Did he agree to marry, or did he reconsider and bolt?
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Yes it does. Men avoid relationships and parenthood. Why sign a legal contract, which has the unwritten stipulation that if the woman starts to not like you, she can leave you, taking the kids, home, car, and most of the resources that maybe they both put towards a future with each other.
All she has to do is lie, saying you're abusive towards her or your children. Your life and reputation is ruined, and you'll be abused harshly in prison.
Don't hold your breath. Until fathers start offering dowries again, you won't see anything like that.
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THANKS VERY MUCH!
Come on! There have got to be some extenuating aggravating circumstances here you aren't mentioning!
Disfiguring skin condition? Extreme obesity? Still living with Mom?
Regards,
Well, since you asked, I had to take early retirement to look after my mother. She passed away a couple years ago in her mid-80s.
There was nobody else to do the job. The good, kind relatives lived far away, and the relatives who lived close by wanted to put her in an old folks home. This I wasn’t going to allow.
If I was a rich man, I could have hired people to look after her. Then I would have been a big shot and won the praise of one and all, because we all know that nothing matters except how much money you’ve got.
But I’m not rich, so I had to give up my job and come home. The good relatives who live far away still speak to me, and I fancy I gained a little stature with them for looking after their favorite aunt during her last years. As for the relatives who wanted to put Mom in a home, we haven’t spoken in some time.
As for your other questions, I am in no way disfigured. I could stand to lose some weight, but that covers maybe half the country, so no apologies there. I can move quite fast for a big man, albeit for short distances.
I’m a real bookworm, which I suspect was a turnoff for many if not most of the women I dated way back when. God blessed me with a scholarly disposition, and I’m quite comfortable with that. There has to be more to life than a popularity contest, and if I tend to be a bit diffident with the ladies, I’m certainly not hurting anyone.
Sadie Hawkins Day.......I'm old fashioned and think men should open doors for women and treat them with respect, and do the proposing.
Of course, if one really doesn't know what the answer would be, then one probably doesn't know enough about the person to be proposing....I had no doubt and after 26 years there is even less doubt....
They wed. They both wanted it, she just got frustrated with waiting while he was trying to get it right.
I’m terribly modern. I think everyone should open doors for everyone else and treat everyone with respect, regardless of sex, color, creed, or planet of origin. Regarding proposals of marriage, I don’t think it really matters; I just thought the woman quoted in the article sounds like a loon.
Things are different now from not-too-long ago. The story upthread about how he proposed, he gave her a ring, and then they want back to his place for sex is hardly “old-fashioned.”
There was nobody else to do the job. The good, kind relatives lived far away, and the relatives who lived close by wanted to put her in an old folks home. This I wasn’t going to allow.
If I was a rich man, I could have hired people to look after her. Then I would have been a big shot and won the praise of one and all, because we all know that nothing matters except how much money you’ve got.
But I’m not rich, so I had to give up my job and come home. The good relatives who live far away still speak to me, and I fancy I gained a little stature with them for looking after their favorite aunt during her last years. As for the relatives who wanted to put Mom in a home, we haven’t spoken in some time.
As for your other questions, I am in no way disfigured. I could stand to lose some weight, but that covers maybe half the country, so no apologies there. I can move quite fast for a big man, albeit for short distances.
I’m a real bookworm, which I suspect was a turnoff for many if not most of the women I dated way back when. God blessed me with a scholarly disposition, and I’m quite comfortable with that. There has to be more to life than a popularity contest, and if I tend to be a bit diffident with the ladies, I’m certainly not hurting anyone.
Glad that you didn't feel offended by my somewhat provocative question! (The part about the disfiguring skin condition was just a joke.)
But having a scholarly disposition / being a bookworm disqualifies you?! I'm sure that there must be hundreds of thousands of eligible bachelorettes in the country who are themselves bookworms and/or would love to partner with a fellow-bookworm.
Oh, and (at least in my experience) relatives are never "impressed" or "grateful" for someone else taking in an old and/or disabled family member - they're only relieved.
Regards,
One of the most important lessons I learned early on is you cannot make a man do something he does not want to do. He just won’t do it. If a man wants to date you he will seek you out and find you. If he wants to marry you he will ask you. If he does not ask you you have your answer.
Totally agree...was just stating my personal “old Fashioned” preferences. I remember being in High School and opening a door for a gal and her friend (circa 1970) and being scowled at and told “I can open my own damn door”, to which I replied, “I had to open it for me anyway, if you want, I’ll let it close when I’m through and you can open it for yourself”.....they both went through before me.....Been married 26 years and dated for 2 years before that - I can count on one hand the times my wife opened a door while I was present.
Men are men to be fathers.
Any movement that expects men to give up parenthood is doomed to failure.
Asking men to give up parenthood because men get robbed in divorce is surrender.
With all the years I spent pushing baby strollers, I am grateful for everyone who ever opened a door. I’ve even trained all my children to hold a door effectively: pull it all the way open, stand behind it, if possible, or as far out of people’s way, if you can. Don’t slam it when you’re done.
Sometimes we have trouble getting all of us through the door because the holder feels that he has to stand there as long as more people are coming!
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