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To: irish guard

This ‘badge’ from my alma mater has no such drunken Paddy look.

Er, yes it does, look at it, it shows the usual squat, low-browed, simian-faced, hairy Irishman in pug hat and coat tails squaring up to brawl with someone.

Examine the anti-Irish cartoons and propaganda in 19th century pamphlets and publications in England and the US and this is the brutish, ape-like characterization you will find. It is exactly comparable with anti-semitic characterization of the jowly, long-nosed Jewish moneylender from the same time.

If Notre Dame wishes to keep it, that is their business and no concern of mine, but at least you should know the disreputable origins of the image.


71 posted on 01/31/2018 3:23:29 AM PST by Postman Pat
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To: Postman Pat
Heh, Ok, whatever. the logo was developed in or around 1965, so whatever was in some 19th century stuff, it's not what the university used and it's not the intent of the logo to express a drunken Irishman. So you and I will have to disagree on this one.

Cheers

irish guard

74 posted on 01/31/2018 9:49:24 AM PST by irish guard
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