Posted on 01/30/2018 4:31:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
Speaking on the decision of the Cleveland Indians to no longer make use of the mascot Chief Wahoo as their uniform logo from 2019 onwards, co-host of ESPN’s “First Take” Max Kellerman argued on Tuesday that the University of Notre Dame should also be among those sports teams that take note of the offense caused by their mascot and make move to change it. […]
As well as wholeheartedly standing behind the decision of the Cleveland Indians, Kellerman next went one step further, drawing in the Notre Dame name as an example of another sports franchise that should show the same courtesy to the sections of society who believe their name to be offensive.
“Many Irish-Americans are not offended, but many are. And should that also change? The answer is yes, unequivocally yes,” Kellerman said.
“Pernicious, negative stereotypes of marginalized people that offend even some among them should be changed. It’s not that hard.” …
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>Turkish taffy. The Italian Stallion. Swedish massage. <
It doesn’t even have to be that specific. When using “Is ____________ racist?”, almost any noun will do.
Put in ‘a bathtub’ in the blank, for example. Someone will argue that a bathtub is a symbol of white privilege. After all, few folks in Africa can afford a bathtub. Angry editorials will be then written denouncing racist bathtubs, and all who use them.
@$$hats at ESPN. Kellerman is a joke. That network beclowns itself.
Heh heh!
Leprechaun is a race? Who knew!
And most bathtubs are.....WHITE!
Max is not Irish. Why does anybody care what he thinks. I figure if they can find one leprechaun who is offended, then we can talk. But until then buzz off. Every Irishman even those in Ireland love ND. Unless they went to Boston College.
Maceman wrote:
Maybe they should rename the team “The Drunken Irish Dads.”
Family Guy - Drunken Irish Dad
Great video ~ rock on!
One possibility is that the nickname is inherited from Irish immigrant soldiers who fought in the Civil War with the Union’s Irish Brigade. Notre Dame’s claim to the nickname would seem to come from the presence of Fr. William Corby, CSC, the third president of Notre Dame, who was at the Battle of Gettysburg.
When will this insanity stop. Next they will attack the Vikings. I am tomorrow descent. Or why allow vicious animal names, bear lion tigers etc. Get real folks. These names were taken to take pride in the strength the vision creates.
Irish participation in the American Revolution helped make American independence a reality.
While tens of thousands of old Gaelic names of 17th and 18th Century Irish immigrants appear with astonishing regularity in completely verifiable colonial records, any reference to these people is almost totally omitted from our standard American histories, including the American Revolution.
The following documented facts is an example of Irish participation in the American Revolution.
- At the Battle of Lexington (April 19, 1775), 174 Irish were present.
- At the Battle of Bunker Hill (June 17, 1775), 698 Irish were present.
- A prominent American, Joseph Galloway, also an English Tory told the English House of Commons, on October 27, 1779, that one-half of Washington’s Continental Army was Irish.
- On April 2, 1784, Luke Gardiner, afterward Lord Mountjoy, told the English Parliament, “America was lost by Irish emigrants … I am assured from the best authority, the major part of the American Army was composed of Irish and that the Irish language was as commonly spoken in the American ranks as English, I am also informed it was their valor that determined the contest …“
- Many Irish, banished by England, fought with Lafayette. At the Siege of Savannah, 637 Irish were killed.
You may be right, but I think the term “Fighting” whatever is widespread in sports nicknames. It describes battling spirit of competition. The satirical “Fighting Whities” has been referenced on the site many times.
When Dick Butkus’s nephew (cousin) was playing at the University of Illinois, they called the team the “Biting Illini”.
I am kinda conflicted by this, sure the idea of the “Fighting Irish” as stalwart tough soldiers in whatever country’s armies they fight, and in countless wars the Irish have fought on both sides, is a great one, but the team’s logo? That’s a different thing.
The badge doesn’t show a square-jawed soldier stoutly manning a rampart, it is a cultural stereotype of the 19th century drunken Paddy squaring up for a fight.
I am Irish and my political viewpoint is somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, but I do cringe a bit when I look at it, I don’t like it. However, I have no desire to impose my views on others, if supporters of the team like the badge and have pride in it, then so be it.
“What about those people who work in a steam plant and are offended to be called Boilermakers”
Well... I guess some people could be offended when their drinking habits or preferred imbibments are ridiculed. Personally, the taste of whiskey with a beer chaser is pretty offensive. Bourbon with a cheap can of beer is just a wee bit better.
And the Irish Brigade, absolved at Gettysburg by Fr. William Corby, (a future Notre Dame President) of their sins, helped beat the confederate troops that day at Gettysburg. Those fighting Irish helped defeat rebs who wanted to retain slavery. But hey, we Notre Dame folds are the offensive ones? Good grief...no wonder espn is such a goofy mess
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