Posted on 01/26/2018 10:04:43 AM PST by Brian Griffin
In order to become a citizen, the individual must return to their native country and apply for reentry along with all other applicants in their home country.
“If I could hire good workers, train them and retain them in certain trades and wanted to work hard enough to manage them I’d make a fortune.”
The fundamental problem is paying for the training.
The USA has the best supply of good, smart workers in the world.
“You lost me at the second paragraph.”
Some things, such as legislation, require more than a sound bite.
“I think DJT would have a similar reaction.”
Hopefully, he has people under him that have the mental endurance necessary.
We used to put up square bales of hay instead of the big round ones like we do now. It eventually got impossible to find teenagers to pick up hay in the summer. We gave up doing square bales when the last two teenage boys we hired ended up passed out under a tree due to the heat. My husband and I were still going. One year we let a neighbor mow and keep the hay. He hired some illegals to help. We lost a 4-wheeler, a Stihl chainsaw, and an expensive trimmer about two weeks after the hay was done. A lot of farmers here actually go to the border to get illegals and haul them back to do farm work.
We have some large farms that use legal guest workers and they don’t have so many problems but the small farmers use illegals.
There should still be a way to make the healthy Welfare deadbeats do the jobs people claim Americans won’t do. There should be no job Americans won’t do.
I understand the problems that farmers face because we farmed but at some point Welfare people need to come off of Welfare and be productive. We shouldn’t be paying anybody not to work and then expect to bring in foreigners to do the work.
No reason to give amnesty at all.
And what good is it to shut off the spigot of them after they’ve flooded your home, deciding to just “legalize” and let stand the water that’s already waist high?
“Create a new category called ‘Permanent Guest Worker.’”
It has good potential, I’ll be thinking about that for some time.
1) Don’t care what’s in Goodlatte’s bill or the “Dream” act, it’s still too complicated. Just reduce ALL immigration to near zero. From 1924 to 1965, it was on the order of 200K/yr, and that was from Northern Europe predominantly - no trouble to assimilate.
2) Flat out wrong. You’re new here so I’ll waste exactly one line on your mistake, but the status of aliens born in the United States can be clarified by the Congress, not requiring a new Amendment. As far back as 2001: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr190ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr190ih.pdf
You are missing my point.
I’ve done what you are doing for 7 uncles, aunts, and parents.
Imagine when you and I are going through that process in our lives. Do YOU have access to relatives doing that? My mom is in a skilled nursing facility now, but she was living on her own. Of four children, three were more than 1,000 miles away due to careers, marriages, etc. I am sure you and I could write a book about how this happens to our peers.
My point is that these elders are living longer; we will live even longer; and the Gen X’ers behind me will live even longer because they, for the most part, don’t smoke.
I also use elder care as an example because nursing assistants is a gateway position for a lot of first generation immigrants. But I could have picked just about any industry for my example.
There just are not a ton of younger people to fill these positions.
“#1 - Enforce the EXISTING Laws”
Obviously, they can’t. I run across a few illegals most days, but unless I can check their status my suspicions mean nothing.
“#2 - Terminate any/all welfare”
Fat chance of that happening! If the government tried the crime wave would be unbelieveable. Think of Cape Town or Ciudad de Mexico.
“#3 - Prosecute any/all lawbreak(ing|ers) and those enabling/abetting.”
Even Goodlatte has good faith exceptions.
“#4 - Read, defend, uphold the plain English reading of the 14th.”
Someone left out the word now as the third word
“All persons NOW born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Right now:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
Mr. Griffin, were you born in the US?
Yes!
In which state do you reside?
Florida!
Then obviously you are a citizen of the US and of Florida.
“eVerify (no authority)”
The US government has the necessary and proper authority to protect a state from an invasion of Central American scofflaws.
As we know, millions can get past a border, especially one without a wall.
Also, the US has a $20 trillion debt and it can’t pay it without having most working people making wages high enough to be able to pay substantial taxes.
“My mom is in a skilled nursing facility now”
The wages while not great are still high enough to successfully attract the native born in my area.
Please also note your use of the term skilled.
Do you want the screaming scofflaws (and future ones) taking care of your loved ones?
“The people doing this stuff now are retiring and/or leaving the workforce.”
One can say that about lawyers living in mansions practicing law too.
Our workforce participation rate is low by historical standards.
PS
The Late Great Larry Auster had a good series on Birthright Citizenship and the debates around it.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/008462.html
PSPS:
Just because the bureaucracy chooses to pretend it exists doesn’t mean it’s true. Comment: Trump could issue an EO directing the agencies NOT to treat the children of illegals as citizens and that would end THAT practice.
“You’re new here so I’ll waste exactly one line on your mistake, but the status of aliens born in the United States can be clarified by the Congress, not requiring a new Amendment. As far back as 2001: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr190ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr190ih.pdf";
So at least one of you and someone in DC admited there is a Constitution-based “anchor baby” problem.
However, I believe courts such as the one on Capitol Hill are the ultimate deciders of what the Constitution really means.
You all know about the Defense of Marriage Act attempt.
“Trump could issue an EO directing the agencies NOT to treat the children of illegals as citizens and that would end THAT practice”
The agencies are infested with leftists.
Even our Republican Congresscritters won’t help Trump.
“merit based immigration policy”
I’ll look into the legislative language of that when I have time.
“that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign power”
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/008477.html
When an ordinary Mexican mom has just given birth in a Laredo hospital, there isn’t normally any Mexican official there able to exercise Mexican governmental power over the infant.
I can’t say the same for a wife of an ambassador, since the ambassador can pat the child on its posterior. The ambassador can tell any US official who walks in the room that the child has diplomatic immunity.
“Anything short of deportation for all illegal alien dacacas and their illegal alien parents is a slap in the face for IMMIGRANTS...”
As may be discovered by glancing at the front page of the NY Times today.
Many legal immigrants are justifiably angry and feeling cheated.
But the participation rate was not even measured until the post war era.
We've been fighting here at FR for over ten years, since at least 2006, the last concerted effort by the open borders shills and their paid-for critters to pass another shamnesty. After seeing our guy elected--against all odds--on a "No amnesty. They have to go home!" platform, you waltz in and give your treatise on how we can give the illegals amnesty. Thus, our antipathy towards your Five Year Plan.
Trump owns Democrats after the shutdown he hasn’t offered them anything, he upped the amount from 16b to 25b, no chain migration except mom and dad and sibs.
Dems will never accept, DACA is dead
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