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To: MarMema; GoldenState_Rose
The Orthodox church has a long history of nationalism. I knew all this stuff back in the mid-90's. Nothing new. I support nationalism so it's not an issue to me. Let the non-Orthodox find other countries to evangelize. Why do they insist on evangelizing other Christians?

Why? Because usually being converts themselves they are well aware that the majority in Catholic and Orthodox churches are lost, trusting that their baptism made them children of God, and with the intercession of their church they will attain Heaven.

In contrast, evangelicals are not so much attempting to convert you to their church but to Christ, via heart-felt contrite repentant faith in the Lord Jesus to save you on His account, as damned and destitute sinners, as in Scripture. Which results in following the Lord.

One who has not had the transformative events of being born again with its basic profound changes in heart and life then they need their "day of salvation."

And in contrast to evangelicals Russian Orthodox overall show very little commitment, which is a testimony to their lost condition.


Despite the opening of more churches and official and media support for Christianity in Russia in recent years, the share of Russians attending Christmas services was less than two percent of the Russian population – a decline by more than half over the last eight years. Russian officials and hierarchs of the Russian Orthodox Church routinely claim that 80 percent of more of the Russian people identify as Orthodox Christians, and polls show that almost that many acknowledge that they do, although they indicate that they only attend church and follow its rituals from time to time. - Window on Eurasia -- New Series: Share of Russians Taking Part in Christmas Services has Fallen by Over Half Since 2010

Pew reports:

Orthodox Christians make up an estimated 57% of Central and Eastern Europe’s total population, including large majorities in 10 of the 18 countries surveyed, from Russia to Serbia to Greece...But their orthodoxy does not necessarily translate into high levels of practice, or “orthopraxy” (derived from the Greek for “action”). For instance, a median of fewer than one-third of Orthodox Christians in the region report praying daily and fasting during holy times such as Lent. - Orthodox Christians in Europe more likely to believe than practice their religion

- https://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2018/01/share-of-russians-taking-part-in.html

87 posted on 01/24/2018 12:44:25 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212
Yeah, all that stuff you posted. That's why I will never be a protestant.

Religion is a mystery not a philosophy.

Additionally you know nothing about the Orthodox faith which never ever presumes that anyone is going to heaven, within the church or outside of it.

You should probably examine your level of arrogance however. That's what i would do in your shoes. I believe Scripture supports humility and a lack of judging others, things which are found in abundance in the many many Orthodox churches I have been to, around the country and world.

89 posted on 01/25/2018 5:13:45 AM PST by MarMema
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