Why did turtleface shoot down the military pay resolution?

Me | 1/21/2018 | GeorgiaDawg32

[spokeshave]

I was wondering if Trump had the power to draft the entire US Congress-or at least make them all “federal employees”

Wasn't this used by the congress critters to avoid obamacare...

Designated each congressional office as a "small business" and so exempt

[ronniesgal]

if the troops don’t get paid,,, does that mean govvies don’t get paid??? I crack myself up.

[mountainlion]

The Democrats are despicable
Really....

The Democrats are criminal
Really

[PapaBear3625]

Can’t our president continue to pay the troops?

Nope. Article I, Section 8, on powers of congress:

12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Congress can put out bills that allocate funding for agencies which would continue past the end of the budget term, but there is a special constitutional carve out for the military.

Why? The founders were afraid of the potential abuse a Standing Army would be put to. Historically, the Standing Army was also used to enforce the will of the King. If the founders looked at today's government, they would have added the stipulation that ALL federal "enforcement" agencies are considered elements of a "standing army", and that NO funding for any federal employee charged with enforcement of federal law or regulation could exist for longer than the two year budget term.

[WayneS]

Turtle face. That’s a good one, and accurately descriptive, too.

I had never heard the nickname before, but I knew immediately that you were referring to Mitch McConnell.

[silverleaf]

Trump already doesn’t accept any pay
He should make this Congressional maneuver widely known and ridiculed
Post pictures of DiFi saying shut downs kill people under pictures of the democrats feasting and gloating

“ShutDown Schumer”= we have a new nickname for the despicable schmuck from NY

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

The best protection they could give military pay is to include Congressional pay under the same conditions.

That's hardly a motivation for Congress as most of them are millionaires and the rest live on graft.

[XEHRpa]

Thank you for clearing the fog with that description. I knew it was something along those lines, but since parliamentary procedure is exceedingly arcane, many incorrect motives tend to be inferred.

[AndyJackson]

attempting

??? That reality was passed when the Republicans took the majority and subverted the Contract with America.

[trebb]

I was once wrong back in ‘92.

Is that the time you thought you were wring and then discovered that you were mistaken about being wrong?

Happened to me a time or two....

[IndispensableDestiny]

It's because McConnell scheduled a vote on the CR at 1am Monday morning. That's when debate on the CR ends per Senate rules. Holding a vote would suspend debate and push back the vote.

I suspect all this wheeling and dealing to to make sure the CR passes Monday morning.

[GeorgiaDawg32]

You got it..:)

I vindicated myself.

[House Atreides]

“...It does not hit the fan until the end of the month.”
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It used to be that the military was paid once a month. Now, most are paid twice a month as an option.

[Gunslingr3]

What about in the case of a matter of Nation Security as outlined by Trumps human trafficking Executive Order?

So your assertion is that a unilaterally issued presidential diktat overrides he plain language of the Constituion?

That's dictatorship, not a Republic.

[GeorgiaDawg32]

I was in the Navy ‘70-’77. We got paid twice a month, 1st and the 15th.

[Waverunner]

Whose going to be MACK and throw Yertle into the mud? Get rid of the 60 vote rule.
The Dems will do that the minute they have 51 votes in the Senate.
It's the worst Kabuki ever.
See Mitch, Chuck,Paul, and Nancy below

[UnwashedPeasant]

"No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time." Article I, Section 9, Clause 7

That does not seem to apply if a president wants to send hundreds of billions of dollars to terrorist regimes.

[thingumbob]

No....I'm just asking if this creates a special circumstance as a matter of national security.

Furthermore, there's no need for the snide attitude FRiend. It would be nice if you could remember we're playing on the same team and am your gun at the enemy instead of your allies.

[xrmusn]

Military doesn’t get paid - Congress doesn’t get paid
= = = = = = = = = =
Congress is an ongoing criminal enterprise.

The Military isn’t — though they have the guns, the criminals control the movements and ammo.

If Congress doesn’t get paid they have to gripe about it as if they don’t ALL will realize that the pittance most of them get is nothing compared to the insider trading, bribes, pay offs etc etc hence, an ONGOING CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE..

They should be under the RICO blanket...

[Gunslingr3]

No....I'm just asking if this creates a special circumstance as a matter of national security.

So... the President declares 'matter of national security' and just does what he wants? Is that how you think the Constitution works?

It would be nice if you could remember we're playing on the same team and am your gun at the enemy instead of your allies.

It would be nice you could remember the Constitution isn't optional and if you think the Constitution can be suspended because the President declares 'national security' you're not actually on my team.

Craving authoritarianism is the Road to Serfdom.