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To: Nextrush

Watched Cliven’s press conference on Jason Goodman’s YouTube Channel. He is on solid ground.

His case is compelling. The conflict stems from federal agencies weaponized under Obama targeting White Christian rural families, especially those like the Bundy’s who are sitting on billions of dollars of Uranium that Harry Reid and sons cut a deal for and were expecting windfall profits from.

The agency scheme was hatched by a wrongful imposition of a federal ‘grazing tax’ for cattle on ‘federal lands’, lands that rancher families like the Bundy’s had cattle graze on for 150 years. Suddenly a ‘tax’ appears out of nowhere and with no legitimacy other than a snarling attitude “We’re federal government hotshots and you will do as you’re told”. All the ranchers that acquiesced, signed on to the tax and wrote a check, those ranchers are now all out of business as the payment of the tax constitutes a contract to abide by federal agency rules (policies) that were fabricated behind the tax. Signing those checks made a contract that laid a trap. Those ranchers that signed the checks went out of business as their cattle suffered and they closed down and sold their ranches.

The Bundy’s saw the trap laid by the Obama era agents and protested peacefully which the hostile press called a ‘standoff’. It was not a standoff, it was a peaceful protest that was met with violent federal employees from the Bureau of Land Management. These employees had gained employment with the federal government, had been trained as a dangerous military force, had been brainwashed to think American families such as the Bundy’s were domestic terrorists according to Obama era policies. Every last one of them needs to be transferred into military service and shipped off to Bumf*ck Egypt for a tour of permanent duty.

Cliven makes a solid argument from the Constitution that the federal government cannot impose such a tax because they do not ‘own’ the land. The Constitution plainly states that the federal government can ‘buy’ land for operations such as military bases, post offices, courthouse buildings, and the like. Whereas the federal government never ‘bought’ the land that cattle grazed on since the Civil War, the federal government is not the owner nor can they be owners of such large swaths of land. No money changed hands or title transferred as required by the Constitution, that silly anachronistic parchment that some whacky Americans think governs their lives. Message to the Bundy’s “Get A Real Job, a Government Job! And shut up about your stupid Constitution!”

Cliven spent 700 days in jail for a crime he never committed, having been adjudged guilty before trial. In jail, he witnessed how federally employed low-IQ lawyers, lawyers likely on the government payroll because they couldn’t make it anywhere else, manufactured, hid evidence, lied, and railroaded protestors participating with the Bundy’s.

I, too, have in the last decade witnessed government or quasi-government lawyers who lie, cheat, steal, under color of law. My father, RIP, a senior DOJ Attorney who worked directly for the US Attorney General, a man of honor and integrity, who gave his life as a weekend warrior in the reserves, impressed me that government lawyers were a cut above the rest of society, that they had a code of honor that ensured the laws were fairly enforced. Yes, I was wrong but not so wrong years ago as I would be today. Today, the few bad apples of yesterday have become prevalent in that government culture. These unethical government employees have been indoctrinated into the culture of brazen railroading of innocent people, that it is justified because ‘compliance’ subordinates all other standards.

The Bundy’s were not ‘compliant’. They were tax evaders, tax protestors living in their world of constitutional irrelevance, hence needed to either be shot to teach a lesson or railroaded into prison or both.

The resolution of this tragedy is not in the granting of these non-titled lands to the states, for the states have their unethical legal cultures inhabited by the likes of the sons of Harry Reid and corrupt Governors and cronies. The title needs to be federally chartered by an Act of Congress, managed by communities under bylaws of Stewardship. Congressionally authorized stewardship charters must be introduced in Congress to stop the growth of these rogue federal hooligans who get the wrong idea that somehow they are lords over the range. These hoodlums put their pants on just like everyone else. They are on the government payroll, why? The role of these agencies needs a top-down review of just why they exist and what their purpose really is. Then they need to have their training standards overhauled so that the people lucky enough to get that government job understand the image they are trained to project to the citizenry. And they need to be disarmed immediately. If law enforcement is necessary, they can always get a court order served by the Sheriff. They need not show up armed like Rambo to get their asinine testosterone fix for their f*cked up egos.


16 posted on 01/11/2018 5:45:53 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage
Here's the one reason I find to be on the Bundy's side. From the recent mistrial:
The judge further identified 493 pages of internal affairs documents on BLM agent Love that said there were no documented injuries to endangered desert tortoises by cattle grazing on the federal land. That's the reason the federal land agency sought to curtail the senior Bundy's grazing permit in 1993 and limit the number of cattle on public land.

21 posted on 01/11/2018 6:42:54 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Hostage

I concur 100%.


22 posted on 01/11/2018 6:53:49 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Hostage

Thanks for the informative and sensible post.


23 posted on 01/11/2018 7:01:58 AM PST by Balata
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