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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They continue to repeat this lie. Sick of it.


12 posted on 01/10/2018 7:07:27 PM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: Bigg Red

Here is a link to another point of view on the Jefferson DNA story that doesn’t support the conventional wisdom of today. https://jeffersondnastudy.com/

Here is a link speaking to the males with Jefferson DNA who were at Monticello and could have fathered some or all of the children attributed to Sally Hemmings. https://jeffersondnastudy.com/people/randolphs-sons/

Another dissenting point of view to the politically correct modern view on the Jefferson/Hemmings DNA “proof” -

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/true/primer.html


15 posted on 01/10/2018 7:19:14 PM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Bigg Red

Agree. Only reason the whole lie was brought up again was because of Clinton’s affairs.

Worth a read for anyone intested:

https://tomjefferson1976.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/the-thomas-jefferson-sally-hemings-myth-and-the-politicization-of-american-history-by-david-n-mayer/

“The timing of the Nature article’s publication—on the eve of the November 1998 Congressional elections and just weeks before the U.S. House of Representatives’ vote to impeach President Bill Clinton—was not purely coincidental. Professor Ellis’ accompanying article also noted, quite frankly, “Politically, the Thomas Jefferson verdict is likely to figure in upcoming impeachment hearings on William Jefferson Clinton’s sexual indiscretions, in which DNA testing has also played a role.”

“She was only eight when Jefferson last resided at Monticello and was mourning his wife’s death. Unless Brodie was suggesting that Jefferson consoled himself by having an affair with an eight-year-old child, the whole chain of suppositions is preposterous.”

” In fact, Jefferson was one of at least 25 adult male Jeffersons (male-line descendants of his paternal grandfather, Field Jefferson) who might have fathered Eston Hemings, passing on to him the Y chromosome with the distinctive Jeffersonian characteristics. Indeed, eight of these 25 Jefferson males lived within 20 miles (a half-day’s ride) of Monticello—including Thomas Jefferson’s younger brother, Randolph Jefferson, and Randolph’s five sons, who ranged in age from about 17 to 26 at the time of Eston’s birth.”

“To my knowledge and that of others 60 years ago the paternity of these parties were admitted by others.” (Thomas Jefferson Randolph letter, c. 1874, University of Virginia Library.)

The “others” to whom Randolph referred were Peter and Samuel Carr, nephews of Thomas Jefferson (the sons of his sister Martha and his childhood friend Dabney Carr, whom he raised as if they were his own sons). James Parton, in his 1874 biography of Jefferson, quoted Jefferson’s grandson Thomas Jefferson Randolph as telling fellow Jefferson biographer Henry S. Randall that “there was not the shadow of suspicion that Mr. Jefferson in this or any other instance had commerce with female slaves.” T. J. (Jeff) Randolph alleged that Sally Hemings was the mistress of Peter Carr, while Sally’s sister Betsey Hemings was the mistress of Peter’s brother, Samuel. (Letter from Henry S. Randall to James Parton, June 1, 1868, printed in Milton E. Flower, James Parton: The Father of Modern Biography, Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1951, pp. 236-37.) Jeff Randolph also told Randall that he once confronted Peter and Samuel Carr over the matter (after a visitor at Monticello had left a newspaper with “insulting remarks about Mr. Jefferson’s mulatto children”), and that the Carr brothers tearfully confessed their guilt, with Peter saying, “Ar’nt you and I a couple of _____ pretty fellows to bring this disgrace on poor old uncle who has always fed us! We ought to be _____, by _____.”


17 posted on 01/10/2018 7:43:03 PM PST by Kent C
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