Posted on 01/10/2018 4:25:06 PM PST by originalbuckeye
Too many elected Republicans are too intimidated by the insults from Democrats. MOST Dreamers dont even speak English! Many havent shown the slightest interest in assimilating! Whatever are you thinking??? Amnesty for all??
Why mistake collaboration for “intimidation”? It’s been going on for over half a century.
"...DACA dreamers..."
The Bush League Republicans do not care if they win another election as long as they fulfill George HW Bush’s vision of turning the USA into North Mexico.
They are not intimidated.
They are Democrats. All of them.
MOST Dreamers dont even speak English! Many havent shown the slightest interest in assimilating!
NOT...an informed opinion. Nor a winning one.
I know many Dreamers and not only are they very fluent in Engrish, they hold successful jobs, love America and are actually pretty successful as new mothers and fathers.
They wouldn’t know a person in the country of their parents and several don’t even speak the language.
We get the 3-5 things we want and DACA becomes something permanent and superior to 1988 Reagan....which at the time found that some 4.7 million would qualify for citizenship or permanent status, with only 2.3 million actually becoming citizens or lawful residents.
and it took them 25 years to do that.
This time there will be no chain migration and I won’t feel sorry for anyone not becoming lawful in one way or another...
Sorry. The statistic I was referencing actually said 40% dont speak English. I am guilty of hyperbole, but I am informed. Your problem is the same problem the Bush family has......every illegal they know is a good person. Speak to those who have lost family members to illegals....and yes, some are Dreamers. No automatic citizenship, no matter how long they have been here and, if they havent attempted any assimilation, send them back.
I think we’ve had enough of you chest-thumping, pearl-clutching, fainting-couch gloom and doomers.
Go read a telephone book to keep your weak minds occupied.
Buckeye is right .
Majority are illerate and can not even speak English .
Daca are Dems .
Your story is nice spin .
But we don’t need 4 million new Dem voters to give the America hating party complete control for ever .
No, no bro. I understand your frustration and I may doing a write up soon to explain the reality of the effect on of DACA on national, regional and local voting but, nullyfing their vote wouldn’t bother me.
40% is too high as well, maybe......I know “alot” of pretty dumb Americans...LOL
Anyway, we are not sending 800,000 people born here anywhere.
There is no political path that enables or allows that.
And no, I am not some Jebito.
I want the same things you want but, there are certain realities and we only get to claw back on so many.
The Bushites want DACA gratis no strings.
I say we get those 3-5 issues we have been demanding and the other side has refused, in return you get DACA.
They can’t get what they want without giving us what we want.
It’s called negotiation
DACA ends chain migration or there is no DACA
DACA ends the lotto system or there is no DACA
DACA removes voting even if they achieve lawful status or there is no DACA
etc.....
they can not handle facts or logic .
It's a cult like crowd .
Majority are actually literate....
I will do a write and prove by numbers and statistics what the real probabilities are but, thought experiment:
If DACA’s achieve permanent legal status and are eligible to vote would Trump have won or lost California? New York? Massachusets?
If DACA’s achieve permanent legal status and are eligible to vote would Trump have won or lost Oklahoma, Texas, Pennsylvania?
Do the math and get back to me. You will have to assume every single DACA will vote only Democrat and then parse that against the reality of the numbers we know, then explain what the probabilities are of an adverse affect.
But, the reality is many DACA consider themselves republican, if they could vote, because that philosophy make sense to them.
Conversely many DACA consider themselves Democrats, if they could vote, because it feel right, sense of justice and fairness, etc.
Not everyone in a group likes vanilla and not everyone hates chocolate....
Even so, there are many who prefer strawberry....
We DO NOT WANT TO CONNECT all the dots for the liberals. Why are people clueless that Mike Pence is the Chief Negotiator behind Trump regarding this issue, regarding all issues with congress....
Trump was so generous in his comments during the televised event because he knows MIKE PENCE, Yo, the VP, is the Chief behind the scenes negotiator. Trump KNOWS that PENCE is NOT going to negotiate ANYTHING without the wall.
Again..... Key word-s MIKE PENCE who is Trump's Trump card behind the scene deal maker. The art of the deal is in motion and conservatives are spilling the beans. Just stop.
I don’t care period about this.
I do care about the RULE OF LAW.
WHatever the law is, should be honored.
Democrats want selective use of law. And that is the real problem. If immigration laws were upheld and respected, we’d have no problem.
DO NOT ALLOW THE BREAKING OF THE LAW TO EVER EVER EVER BE TOLERATED!
They were not born here. They are Mexican citizens! Mostly.
The Dems know what they are . Read below http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/leaked-memo-daca-recipients-critical-democrats-future-electoral-success/ . Go back to the homeland .< That is what all the countries in the world require by law.
No skipping in line because the Dem need the Voters
Daca are costing us Billions .
They will destroy the Republic .
Apparently not since you are still pro amnesty.
They are already here, have they destroyed the Republic
???
Work? Most will collect full pension the second working isn’t fun any more. They Don’t care.
Congress that is
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