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Just say no to DACA and all other immigration vote schemes designed to increase democrat power

Posted on 01/09/2018 2:32:47 PM PST by Cubs Fan

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To: Cubs Fan

Sorry, but you are going to get “a bill of love”:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368107-trump-daca-solution-should-be-a-bill-of-love


21 posted on 01/09/2018 3:08:58 PM PST by Drago
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That’s the real story. Immigration has never been about anything but a solid lock on power for Dems.

The Reagan amnesty turned California solid red and it has stayed that way ever since.

Even a DACA amnesty would give Democrats a permanent lock on power.

Even though Republicans had far more to do with the Reagan amnesty then Democrats, those people didn’t hesitate to give
unprecedented power to the Liberals in California.

Does the spineless GOP actually think they can steal DACA recipients from the Democrats?

No amnesty should be allowed for ANYONE!


22 posted on 01/09/2018 3:13:35 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Drago; Cubs Fan

Sounds eerily similar to Jebbie’s “Act of Love”.

Or not far removed from GWB’s “Compassionate Conservatism”.

Kate Steinle seems to be unavailable for comment for some reason.


23 posted on 01/09/2018 3:18:39 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Red Badger
These adults are illiterate , don't speak english and don't work

They are Dems

24 posted on 01/09/2018 3:21:05 PM PST by ncalburt (he)
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To: Paulie
Trump is a goner selling out on Amnesty !

The dems will win in 2018 and he be will impeached .

We have 30 M new Dem voters thanks to him !

He suckered everyone !

Trump Read my Lip moment !! He screwed our country forever . unbelievable .

25 posted on 01/09/2018 3:25:40 PM PST by ncalburt (he)
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To: wiseprince

The Dreamers aren’t gping anywhere?

They will go home if Trump is smarter than he is acting about this issue.

Let them stay say three years or long enoungh to, finish school. Give them and their immediate family a grubstake to go home and make their country great again. It will be costly, but worth it to really save our country.

It is imperative to get these people out if we want to save our country.

The third world invasion will destroy us. We can win this with creative compassion and firmness.

Is Donald smart about culture like he is about money? If he is stupid enough to let the cheap labor express outsmart him on this, we may as well give it up and him too.

Call him. Clog the White House phones. Tweet him.

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26 posted on 01/09/2018 3:25:56 PM PST by amihow
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To: Cubs Fan

Correct. It was said best by ann coulter if we dont fix immigration republucan presidentisl debates will be as interesting ad republucan senstorial debates in california.


27 posted on 01/09/2018 3:26:42 PM PST by genghis
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“Thanks to all of the Republican and Democratic lawmakers for today’s very productive meeting on immigration reform. There was strong agreement to negotiate a bill that deals with border security, chain migration, lottery and DACA.”

Trump just tweeting the above. Taken face value, it says that there will be a SINGLE BILL dealing with the Wall, chain migration, the lottery, and yes, DACA. If Trump gets his way on the first 3, he survives (barely). If he gives away either the Wall or chain migration - he loses.

What he tweeted doesn’t match the “2-part” approach being talked about - Part 1 being the Wall and DACA; Part 2 being chain migration and the lottery - and it being a TOTALLY SEPARATE effort. In other words, Trump will give up his main card (DACA) before even trying for chain migration and the lottery - which of course will go nowhere without any leverage.

So which is it? This will be interesting because Trump simply is not THAT DUMB to give away the store before even negotiating critical stuff.

So who knows...but this is it, no more chances to get it right. If Trump doesn’t prevail here, Congress is gone in November and Trump and the Republicans are FINISHED as a party. Game over - time to find a new country to live in.


28 posted on 01/09/2018 3:33:03 PM PST by BobL (I used to own a truck - but I couldn't handle the lifestyle)
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To: Red Badger
Understanding the concept of unintentional consequences and history is not your strong suit.

We are still paying with the sweat of our backs and our children's backs for Reagan's mistakes.

Tax cuts are temporary, killing the mandate is temporary, "Conservative" Presidents/Congress/Supreme Courts are temporary, but amnesty (No matter how Trump packages this, it's amnesty even with some wall that can be breached) combined with public assistance is a civilization destroyer.
29 posted on 01/09/2018 3:37:43 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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There needs to be a two-part deal.

End chain migration, end lottery migration, build a complete 100% wall and fund the resources to enforce it 100% of the time, end anchor babies. Once all that is done.

Then, part 2 - deal with DACA. Deport everyone with a criminal record, deport everyone who has taken any public assistance, deport all who are not fluent in English, deport all who are over 18 and not a high school graduate. Those left must go home for 5 full years, then apply for re-entry and be fully vetted, etc.

Tell the Rats, that is the deal.


30 posted on 01/09/2018 3:48:39 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: ncalburt

Your hysterical rantings are quite humorous.

Same ol’ same ol from the same bunch of folks.


31 posted on 01/09/2018 3:49:18 PM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: amihow

“Is Donald smart about culture like he is about money?”

Well, for some thoughts on that consider who this President regards as his “closest and most trusted advisors”. That may give a clue on the culture part of your question.


32 posted on 01/09/2018 4:21:59 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie
Good point. Hipsters respect trends not culture.

Michael Anton is an advisor and think he could clue Donald in about culture.

Google him. Classically educated guy.

33 posted on 01/09/2018 4:31:02 PM PST by amihow
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To: amihow

I did as you said. Seems you’re right about him.

Will he have any appreciable influence over the fate of DACA, chain migration, etc. in this current deal making?

Per one of my previous posts, it seems to me that the President is deferring the deal making to the dozen or so Congresspeople. Trump will sign whatever they come up with, he indicated.

If true, it seems from that standpoint the die is already cast and out of Mr. Anton’s hands. Do you agree?

Frankly, I would have a lot more confidence in the outcome if President Trump was taking an active role in these negotiations, and was adamant he would not sign a bill that didn’t meet certain goals.

Thank you for pointing out this man, Mr. Anton to me.


34 posted on 01/09/2018 4:43:40 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump Following Following @realDonaldTrump More As I made very clear today, our country needs the security of the Wall on the Southern Border, which must be part of any DACA approval.
35 posted on 01/09/2018 4:44:44 PM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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DACA hurts children.

No DACA.

Amnesty hurts children.

No amnesty.


36 posted on 01/09/2018 4:57:29 PM PST by TheNext
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To: Paulie

I found Anton when Donald gave his speech in Poland. Looked at everyone’s background and Anton only one who could have written that speech, although there is no evidence he did to my knowledge.

Think Donald think has to do DACA. I thin pay them big monies to go home and take their families. Saving the culture and renewing it is imperative.

If we shut down White House phones like we did in 06, die not cast perhaps.


37 posted on 01/09/2018 5:05:42 PM PST by amihow
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To: Cubs Fan

All “comprehensive immigration reform” is always about amnesty. All amnesty, birthright citizenship, chain migration is all about swelling dem ranks.


38 posted on 01/09/2018 5:20:30 PM PST by umgud
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They say that the DACA children “pay taxes, produce to American society as any white or black American would”.

Is that true?


39 posted on 01/09/2018 5:46:38 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
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>>IF he provides a path to citizenship for true DACA people, then he may have pulled off a political coup for the ages.................<<

It worked for LBJ and JFK.

They flipped the switch — maybe Trump can get the dreamers the same way.

I don’t like criminals benefiting from their crimes— but I can see the writing on the wall on this one.


40 posted on 01/09/2018 6:09:31 PM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo took 8 years to try to destroy us. Trump took 1 to rebuild us. MAGA!!)
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