Bono Thinks Music “Has Gotten Very Girly”

NME ^ | Dec 28, 2017 | Sam Moore

[nickcarraway]

Bono has said that music “has gotten very girly” in recent years, with hip-hop serving as “the only place for young male anger at the moment”.

The U2 frontman voiced the opinion during a new interview, with the 57-year-old lamenting the lack of “young male anger” in rock music in 2017.

[Blue Collar Christian]

In an ancient civilization you could be stoned for that.

[GCFADG]

not a fan

[GCFADG]

Technology drives everything. We went from Charlie Christian to Eddie Van Halen in about 40 years.

[ADemocratNoMore]

This post is a response to many points already made in this thread so I’ve thrown them all together into one.

I’m 65 years old and started listening to music back when I was an infant - there always a radio on in the house and I had my very own portable transistor radio in the very early 1960’s. I quite literally grew up with rock.

The only problem is that, up until 1967 or so the music on the radio was pop. Radio play controlled everything including what made it onto the store shelves. All that changed when FM went “Underground” and Jimi, Janice, the Doors and the Dead were let loose on the masses and the masses listened and wanted more. I wanted more.

My dad was a truck driver and he was given promo copies as a favor from one of the distributors on his route so we had hundreds of records around the house in the 50’s. The first records I bought with my own money, right after I converted an old mono record player to stereo were “Are You Experienced”, “The Piper at the Gates of Dawn” and Waiting for the Sun”. That was 1967 and by the early 80’s it seamed like all the originality had been squeezed out by the desire to sell formulaic lowest common denominator commodity songs to the masses. By that time I was listening primarily to Progressive Rock, then something happened to me that I’m sure happened to tens of thousands of others that changed the course of modern musical history. I, and countless others started making our OWN music.

The ubiquity of the personal computer with affordable Digital Audio Workstations and Virtual Studio Instruments allowed anybody and everybody to do what up to that point only a select few could access once they had made it past the gatekeepers. I do what I do for my own fun, probably one person in a thousand actually likes my experimental electronic music but I do and I can produce a piece that sounds as good as a lot of professionally published work from just a few decades ago.

In the early 2000’s I started mostly listening to Classical music. While there is a lot of egregious modern classical out in the wild there is also a large cadre of new composers who don’t suck who learned to create works on their computers using some very sophisticated sampling software.

At this point the last key to the puzzle is revealed. With the rise of Youtube, Soundcloud and other media sharing sites the tyranny of the commercial record companies was suddenly rendered obsolete and the musical creator could put his music out to the planet directly to his fans and gain newfound popularity with hordes of people who otherwise might never have found such new music that touches them.

Just today I posted in other threads about bands that are making great music that I’ve found, in part thanks to Youtube’s A.I. sidebar. I suggest that, for those of you who think rock & roll is dead you might revise your premise to the take into account that the genre has mutated into a host of new and relevant forms.

A few examples...

Hanggai - A throat-singing rock band from Mongolia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvW8JEuIo58

The Wagakki Band - Humans cover Hatsune Miku’s Senbonzakura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_xTet06SUo

Senbonzakura - Hatsune Miku Live Party 2013 in Kansai - The Queen of the Vocaloids rocks out live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-B8LnBNwO8

Herczeg Flóra és a Veszelka Kommandó - Tisza Vize - Traditional Hungarian folk music meets Rock&Roll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9UdV3I7Cg

Wintergatan - Paradis - A Maker_CircuitBending_SteamPunk_PlasmaPunk fusion band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0SKEgMEw5Y

NIGHTWISH - Ghost Love Score - Opera meets Metal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V_eoR6r1Tw

Females stand out in most of these examples but I would hardly call any of the pieces “Feminine”. I think it illustrates the point that Rock&Roll, what ever it is, is a virus that infected the planet a long time ago and still holds sway today.

[ADemocratNoMore]

> I’d like to see a revival of classical beauty. A renaissance. To hell with all the rubbish.

https://youtu.be/E2zbAO5_jCE

How very nice ! The Naxos label has always offered quality product and this is no exception to that rule.

Thank you very much for sharing !

[dfwgator]

Rock n roll’s been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died.

[dfwgator]

Says the guy who wanted Hillary to be President.

Hey Bono, you like paying those Dutch taxes?

[FreedomPoster]

Stimpson J. Cat fan?

[FreedomPoster]

I recommend some Junior Brown as an antidote to that. We need to clone him. His comments on the hick pop types are priceless.

[wardaddy]

There are a handful of rockish bands out there new

Highly Suspect

Greta van Fleet

Not much

I listen to Ryan Upchurch ...redneck unabashed southern rap....you don't like our flag....eff you...God love em

I discovered. It and my boys are like damn dad finally found Upchurch..lol..on Napster

Rolling Stoned......Cheatham County....Ghost..perfect

And I know the kid now sort of..he's local..

He's a good looking boy and he gets it from his beautiful mom....hollow folks out river road..northwest of Nashville it gets wild and woolly fast..

Hey at least somebody is keeping the faith....he even has a pro Trump song and an Alex Jones song all at ripe old age of 26

[jmacusa]

Well, I know of ‘’ren and stimpie’’ but in reality I was just using some the idioms of my ancestral people, the Irish. “Feck’’ is Irish for the ‘’f’’ word and ‘’ijit’’ is ‘’idiot’’. Me old Irish granny was fond of that word. And others like “Shut yer gob’’ and ‘’C’mere to me, ya bugger!’’

[FreedomPoster]

“Idjut” was a regular favorite of Stimpy’s, usually hurled at Ren, and your rendition I just heard in his voice.

All in fun.

[FreedomPoster]

I’ve been encouraged by the number of young people at Tedeschi-Trucks Band shows. As you probably know, that’s some solid old-school Southern blues-rock right there.

[Maverick68]

Actually the Entertainment industry and Western Culture as a whole have gotten too “girly”.

[Atticus]

Led Zeppelin was the greatest. And they never write an “angry” song to my knowledge. You don’t need angry, racist, sexist, pornographic hip hop music to channel young male energy. Black Dog, Rock and Roll and Achilles Last Stand will do!

[GCFADG]

That’s probably true in the pure sense of the term “rock and roll. The Beach Boys put out some good stuff, but by the time Dylan and the Beatles show up, it’s over for rock and roll.

[GCFADG]

You are very welcome. So glad you like it.

I got into early Italian lute after I fell in love with Vivaldi, who was from Venice. I worked backwards from him to this music.

Give this a listen:

https://youtu.be/o8p5z-TcWiY

Vivaldi, properly performed, is unmatched. Most recordings of his work are truly awful. Even great violinists and conductors simply got it terribly and tragically wrong — in tempo, spirit and tone. Rachel Podger OWNS it, and to hear her play and direct Vivaldi was one of the great music revelations of my life.

[sheana]

I wasn’t asking if you were a fan. You were saying there are no more guitar Gods.

[GCFADG]

Bonomassa is a clear sign of how dead the guitar is.

[HonkyTonkMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6LsnxaAcgE

He is great! Love this interview :)